• firefly@neon.nightbulb.net
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    > “Literally the only other solution I can envision is to force LLM manufacturers to pay a significant tax to subsidize the journal review system that they are about to destroy.”

    Just charge a reading fee for each submitted article. This nonsense would stop overnight. And blacklist any author caught plagiarizing via ‘AI’ toolchains. If something comes from an AI the AI should be cited in the references, something like:

    [AI][chatENG] … or … [AI:chatENG] …

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      @firefly AI is not the only problem. The fact those articles got published is merely a symptom of a far larger problem, mostly created by the combination of carreers depending on number of publications and for-profit scientific publishers. Even without AI many publications contribute nothing. I have seen people reinvent linear models as a “powerful new method”.

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        Yeah, “publish or perish” is not a sound scientific model. Nowadays many institutional researchers, writers and publishers have more in common with social media influencers than they do with bonafide scientists.

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    @[email protected]

    > “We urgently need to rethink scientific communication!”

    The solution to lazybones using AI for journal manuscripts is to simply go back to the old school model of charging a submission and reading fee for all journal article submissions. And then issue a refund of the reading fee ONLY to the authors of articles chosen for publication–those which show up to the conference to present the paper.

    This would weed out the majority share of the nonsense and ensure staff could be paid to really review manuscripts.

    Imagine if the USPTO didn’t charge a fee for patents and trademarks. Now you know why they do. The Patent and Trademark system would self-destruct in a fortnight. Instead of painstakingly perfecting one’s claims to avoid wasting money, claimants would throw a never-ending stream of crappy claims applications at the patent examiners.

    Many poetry journals and magazines formerly charged reading fees to submit work. This limited the amount of garbage they had to sort through. If you have to pay to play then you’re much, much more likely to play your best.

    The online revolution and the entitlement mentality created by misguided anti-copyright zealots have convinced an entire generation that, “information is free.” Well, no, actually, it isn’t. If you want good information, it costs sweat, blood, tears, talent, and time to produce–and all the same pains to filter out the garbage.

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      @[email protected] @[email protected]

      I think back to these hoaxes, which con-artists invented to convince people that evolution is real:

      Piltdown Man
      Lucy
      Archaeopteryx
      Brontosaurus

      And other “scientific” hoaxes which will get me banned from the soviet-controlled, fedposter-infested, censorship-friendly fediverse if I even name them …

      Publish or perish …?

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        @firefly I don’t know if @academicchatter can set blocks, but with only 1 right out of 4, your post does sound rather off-topic:

        [1] known fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

        [2] generally accepted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_%28Australopithecus%29

        [3] #FredHoyle and #LeeSpetner suspected forgery, but the palaeontologists’ consensus is that it’s real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopteryx#Authenticity

        [4] generally accepted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontosaurus

        @JorisMeys

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          ‘generally accepted’ and ‘consensus’ prove absolutely nothing. Science is not a democracy. And Wikipedia is not science.

          The historical record proves much about where the theory of evolution really originated, thousands of years before Charles Darwin: racial supremacist, human sacrifice cults. I’ll say more on that later, but first I will lay some groundwork on what evolution is really about: power.

          Like I said elsewhere, modern so-called scientists have more in common with social media influencers and youtube grifters than they do with real scientists.

          Paleontology is a pseudo-science cooked up by evolutionists to ‘prove’ their religion of evolution. In future ages paleontology will be viewed with the same disdain as phrenology and racial hygiene and other things cooked up by evolutionist apparatchiks and their brainwashee parrots.

          And who relies on Wikipedia as ‘scientific’ proof? Seriously?

          Have you ever even done a real scientific experiment where you actually falsify or verify claims? Isn’t it interesting that everything paleontologists present is unfalsifiable and unverifiable because you’re not allowed to examine the physical evidence and are required to take their word for it? Unverifiable claims violate common sense and the scientific method.

          The goal of your rulers is to convert everyone to their evolutionary religion so they can remain in power and so that no one dare question their authority.

          “Away, therefore, with all the scientific moonshine that would connect men with monkeys; that would have the world believe that humanity, instead of resting on its own characteristic pedestal — gloriously independent — is a sort of sliding scale, making one extreme brother to the ourangou-tang, and the other to angels, and all the rest intermediates!” ~ Frederick Douglass

          “Evolution” was a religious cult in ancient Greece and Rome. It did not originate with Charles Darwin as the evolutionist apparatchiks have taught in the past cenury. Evolution was a religious doctrine of Darwin’s grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, who was an occultist. Erasmus Darwin wrote religious poetry about his evolution belief, which is the same as the ancient evolutionary religion of the ancient Greek gnostics.

          And almost 2000 years ago in the Greek and Roman civilization the believers in evolution practiced human sacrifice and witchcraft. Their great grandchildren live among us today and concocted the modern theory of evolution to convert Christians to their religion. The ancient Greeks called their evolution religion, ‘gnosis’ or ‘knowledge’ or ‘science.’ The Apostles warned us almost 20 centuries ago about their so-called science:

          “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:” (1 Timothy 6)

          The ancient evolutionists were racial supremacists. It is no wonder that modern evolutionists who promoted Darwin’s books were also racial supremacists. That is the core of their religion, a ‘master race’ from a ‘divine bloodline’ that is to rule over all the ‘inferior races.’ That is the origin of the theory of evolution. It’s religious nonsense from an ancient racist death cult.

          Modern evolutionary paleontology is from the same source. It is a religion dressed up as science by grifters, compromisers, nitwits, rubes, and brainwashees to convert people to their religion under the rubric of ‘science’. It is a criminally insane assault on the intellects of young children and students. It is a slave’s anthem for a fascist society ruled by a supremacist cult. That’s what it was 2500 years ago, and that’s what evolution remains today.

          More history of the matter is shown here:

          Those who Manufacture Your Beliefs are Your Rulers: Evolution is Ancient Devil Worship Dressed up for Today

          https://blog.nightbulb.net/evolution-is-ancient-devil-worship-dressed-up-for-today/