Hey there! I’m new to paper MTG and play Commander with my playgroup. We’ve been having a debate about whether the total value of a deck really indicates how strong it is. One of my friends argues that value doesn’t equal strength, but I can’t help but wonder when I keep losing to a deck with a higher price tag than mine.

I’ve been playing 1v1 games with my friend for a few months now, so I know their deck almost as well as mine. It can be frustrating when I can predict their moves but still can’t win with my basic deck. I understand the point that a couple of expensive cards in a deck won’t guarantee a win, but when a deck is upgraded with so many pricey cards, it feels like a whole different ball game.

For reference, we both started with precons, and both upgraded. I spent $20, they spent $120+. Inputing my deck list in a deck value calculator returns $103, which is lower than their upgrade alone lol

I don’t mind losing when the match is good. I hate losing when I’m always on the backfoot and can’t do much besides hoping to survive another turn

What are your thoughts on this? I’d love to hear different perspectives on the relationship between deck value and strength in the game.

edit: I received more responses than I expected, so I’ll need some time to go through them all and respond. Thank you in advance!

  • Sub_dermal@beehaw.org
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    4 months ago

    I would say that pure monetary value does effect power but with highly diminishing returns and even at the lowest cost the synergy and construction of the deck is more important.

    The most expensive card I own is Sheoldred, The Apocalypse - and I always take her out of my decks because she just doesn’t synergise with them. Yeah it’s powerful, yeah it doesn’t weaken my infect deck (for example), but a dirt cheap Blightbelly Rat is far more valuable to me in that deck if I want to do the things my deck is supposed to do, have fun, and have a good chance of winning.

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      I haven’t played in a very long time, but daaaamn Sheoldred would work soooo well in my old casual Memory Jar/Megrim discard deck.

    • bec@lemmy.mlOP
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      4 months ago

      You’re right, and my bad for not mentioning this earlier, but even though we’re new to paper MTG, we’ve had some experience playing on Arena. So, we didn’t end up wasting money on useless cards. We both decided to upgrade our decks with cards that align with the precon theme, making sure to replace weaker or unfitting cards that originally came in the deck!