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  • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    How are trans or gay people a nation, ethnic, racial, or religious group?

    An ethnicity is a group of people united by culture (among other things) and, LGBTQ+ is definitely a type of culture.

    Comparing the two just trivializes a real genocide.

    Your conception enforces one particular manifestation of genocide. In contrast, the convention says that genocide is either every element of the definition or part of it. In other words, doing everything except killing trans people is still genocide (according to the internationally legal definition anyway).

    Someone misgendering someone arguably would constitute genocide if there were a concerted effort of assholes to intentionally cause mental harm to the misgendered people. I don’t think that’s the case. I think people are individually assholes and intentionally misgender people regardless of the mental harm it causes.

    Yet, the left wants to control speech. Ironic isn’t it? They just want to use words incorrectly to appear to be the victims. If the government tried to round up all the gay and trans people to gas them, I would be one of the first people to stand up to stop that. Until that days comes, we need to stop calling it a genocide as it enforces how nutty the left has become and it is offensive to people who have experienced real genocides.

    Let’s agree that everyone wants to control speech just in different ways. You want words to be used “correctly”, whatever that means. The left wants to expand or restrict what other words mean for various reasons. Xi doesn’t like being called Pooh. Whatever. What matters is that calling for genocide should be worth imprisonment.

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      8 months ago

      An ethnicity is a group of people united by culture (among other things) and, LGBTQ+ is definitely a type of culture.

      The Nazis were a culture, was denazification a genocide?

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      An ethnicity is a group of people united by culture (among other things) and, LGBTQ+ is definitely a type of culture.

      No, while there is a subculture, they are not an ethnic group. Thus using the term of offensive to people who have been part of genocide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity

      he left wants to expand or restrict what other words mean for various reasons.

      This was converted in 1984. We call it New Speak.

      • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Which part of your link were you proposing supported your stance? Reading it, it seems to say the opposite of what you are suggesting.

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          8 months ago

          It does not. Show my why official US document that shows ethnicity with a selection of gay.

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              8 months ago

              You’re making the claim that transgender is an ethnicity. I have never seen it used that way in any way. An official document is easy way to prove your position

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                8 months ago

                Showing you US documents doesn’t make it clear what part of your link made you think it supported your stance. It’s a distraction.

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                  Where in the link does it show trans gender is an ethnicity? Nowhere. Nothing zero. Zilch

                  • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
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                    8 months ago

                    The first two sentences.

                    An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.