• BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
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    Right, so if we pay them more, give them a path to citizenship and an appeals process how would that be worse than completely eliminating for something else that doesn’t exist yet?

    Your mind seems made up on a rip and replace but there’s nothing else to replace it with, and it would be a lot easier to amend this thing which already exists than it would be to completely pass something else, and in the meantime between eliminating h1b and figuring out what else to do while immigrants who want to come here legally will have to wait.

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      8 months ago

      That wouldn’t be an h1 anymore. That would be a standard visa.

      We don’t need h1b when we have other visas that serve the person

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          Yes the current application is to abuse workers. There is no need for an h1b. Other visas can be used instead.

          We need a simpler process. Not 50 types of visas to screw as many people as possible.

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            H1bs are more attainable because they can be petitioned by any company without a strict education requirement, can be extended, does not discriminate on position or require work history with the employer.

            In many circumstances, h1b is the simpler process.

            I agree a simplification would be beneficial, so why are congressional Republicans making immigration reform legislation and then voting it down?

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              H1b has a very strict education requirement. It’s the cornerstone of the program. It does discriminate on position. It is a cornerstone of the position.

              H1b are used to under pay workers who are brought in to compete against American jobs.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/26/h-1b-visa-program-the-facts-the-process-and-the-controversies-explained/15424446-5c9a-11ee-b961-94e18b27be28_story.html

              This is a program both sides except you hate.

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                I don’t think “hate” is the right word, it’s a little extreme.

                I never stated it was perfect, just that it has its applications.

                Biden and DOHS are already looking at how to improve its shortcomings.

                I already repeated most of this but you weren’t listening between your trolling comments.

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                  8 months ago

                  Be civil. If you want to be taken seriously, don’t mention the troll unless it’s accurate. It is also a violation of lemm.ee rules. A troll wouldn’t be having a serious conversation with you about the issues with H1B visas.

                  You may think it’s a program worth saving but I feel it’s flawed out of the gate. It is just an abusive visa program that needs to go away. if the person is such a unicorn, they should be given the chance for citizenship and shouldn’t have a thirty-day exit period. Those are people we want to become Americans. If they are not the unicorns they are claimed to be, a normal visa would be better for them.

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                    8 months ago

                    You’re right. Trolling is a serious thing, which is why I’ve called it out with your comments the past few days, and other users have agreed with me on.

                    Thank you for prefacing your argument this time with “I feel”, making clear that it is your opinion and not the state of things, which is how your previous comments have been worded.

                    I definitely agree with you on the exit period. But this alone does not qualify h1b to be completely ended, in my opinion.