• Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      I get the sentiment, but that’s not entirely the case (at least in my jurisdiction), especially through the approval process. In my experience, regulators can really hammer mine operators. In most cases, they are required to submit annual activity reports that encompass all environmental disciplines as well as engineering and production components. This is on top of any in person visits from regulators themselves.

      My point is that it’s very easy to paint with a broad brush (and we all do it) but there’s often a lot more to it than we think, and it’s on us to check our assumptions/statements if we wish to be accurate.

      • rdyoung@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I’m talking about the age old technique of doing whatever you want and then “going bankrupt”. These companies have no scruples and if you give them an inch they take a mile and always run on the ask forgiveness rather than permission.

        For the record. I grew up in Tampa and that swamp covers a good chunk of both states. I have a fondness for swamp and similar habitat.

        • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          I very much see this as a win for biodiversity, and it’s cool to see them stick to their guns on this front for a change.

          You are absolutely right on the mine abandonment issue. This is why I harp on reclamation security, because it makes it a lot harder for proponents to walk away and provides at least some funds if they go under.

          The point I was trying to make is that there are things in place to both protect the environment and allow (responsible) mining.

          • rdyoung@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            I get what you are saying and I guess I’ve just seen enough of the corporate bullshit with gov agencies just bending over because they are either paid to or don’t have the resources to enforce anything.

            Personally, I’d rather see stuff like this be publicly owned, especially if whatever they are mining will benefit everyone, ie lithium for batteries.

            • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              8 months ago

              Public ownership of a lot of things is sorely needed. We’re slaves to capitalism at this point and it’s horseshit