• derf82@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Voters are well aware what a monster Trump is.

    I don’t think so. Over 80 million voted for him in 2020. And support among those that supported Biden in 2020 in waning. Read this article and shudder: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1234145544/2024-election-michigan-voters-disillusioned-biden-trump

    Ka’Marr Coleman-Byrd, a 27-year-old tax consultant who voted for Biden in 2020, says he’ll make up his mind closer to November based on where things stand with issues like foreign aid, race relations and student loans.

    “Growing up, I feel like I voted Democrat just because it just seemed like the thing to do,” he said. “I’d say now … I’m sort of more into politics and seeing exactly what both parties present, so it’s not just like a blind vote in a sense.”

    Just 50% of Black adults nationally approve of Biden, down from 86% in July 2021, according to a December AP-NORC poll. And there are signs that Black Michiganders’ support for Biden — which Democratic strategists see as key to his reelection — is waning.

    A Howard University Initiative on Public Opinion poll released this month found that 91% of Black voters in Michigan plan to vote in the general election. When asked who they would vote for if that were today, 49% of respondents said Biden and 26% said Trump.

    Considering Trump got only like 10% of the black vote in 2020, this is a huge shift.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, people are so angry, so ready to screw themselves and go down a dark path to prove a point, so do you think that telling them they can’t even make that point in the primary is going to get them on board for the general? It’s absurdist, antidemocratic, nonsense.

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        9 months ago

        What I think is people will say “wow, even a lot if Democrats wouldn’t vote for Biden, so I guess I should go Trump.”

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      9 months ago

      I don’t think so. Over 80 million voted for him in 2020.

      They knew he was a monster. It’s why they voted for him. Never forget that the worst people you know vote and have social media.

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        9 months ago

        There are more stupid voters than you think. Hanlon’s Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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          9 months ago

          And are domestic abusers malicious or just stupid? What about date rapists? There’s plenty of people out there who are inarguably terrible people. Do you think none of them vote?

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            9 months ago

            Oh, sure there are many awful people that vote for Trump. But there are also many stupid people that vote for Trump. Even Trump voters are not a monolith.

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      9 months ago

      Trump is obviously a monster, any non-MAGA is painfully aware of that fact.

      Trump is also recognized, rightfully so, as a political outsider. He is decidedly not more of the same. We the people have been getting squeezed dry for over 50 years, as productivity has continued to rise and material living conditions have only gotten worse. Biden, on the other hand, is the literal embodiment of the status quo politician - for him and his rich corporate donors, things have been great. Biden wants that to continue, thus all he promises is that “nothing will fundamentally change.”

      So again, even though it’s a desperate and misguided notion, stop blaming voters for their desperate actions. If you want Biden to galvanize more support, demand he do something to lead and meaningfully improve people’s lives.