• Saff@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Let’s say they do kill whales. I’m guessing these people still want renewable energy right? You can’t eat your cake and have it too. What’s the alternative? “Lend based wind farms kill birds” “nuclear power plants are unsafe and still generate dangerous waste” fuck me, I’ve heard so many excuses over the years, there are downsides to all options, but we need to do something, so stop whining!

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      9 months ago

      It’s not even a trade-off though. Yes, wind farms kill birds, but fossil fuel plants kill MORE birds. Yes, wind farms may hurt whales, but oil drilling hurts MORE whales.

      Of course stuff is bad if you don’t look at the downsides of the alternatives.

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    9 months ago

    I find it both very sad, and hilarious that many people who WANT an end to the fossil fuel lobby get suckered in to to the bullshit that that the same investment group throw out against wind farms.

    I’m totally for wind farms BTW.

  • Treevan 🇦🇺@aussie.zone
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    9 months ago

    I just got horribly downvoted for summarising a YouTube video but here it is again for the people that just want an overview. Tell me, if you watch it, how accurate is it?:

    In the YouTube video “‘Thrown to the wind’ – are wind farms really killing whales?”, the speaker examines the claims that wind farms are causing an increase in whale deaths off the eastern coast of America. Despite government statements denying a proven connection between wind farms and whale deaths, some argue that surveys used for wind farm development and pile driving cause excessive noise that harms whales. However, the speaker challenges these claims, pointing out that shipping boats, cruise liners, warships, and seismic surveys during oil exploration produce even louder noises. The video also investigates the correlation between wind farm traffic and whale deaths in the New England area and concludes that there is no proven link between wind farm activity and whale deaths, as whale deaths are rising globally and there is no increase in whale deaths in areas with more wind farms. The speaker also criticizes those opposing renewable energy based on unsubstantiated claims about wind farms harming whales, urging viewers to support a charity called Health in Harmony instead

    • Treevan 🇦🇺@aussie.zone
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      9 months ago

      Maybe you need a post submission? Because the title is generalised, it could mean the video is supporting either side of the argument and the people downvoting don’t like the side they think the video is about?

      I just got smashed 30 downvotes for answering someone’s question in another thread with the same tool that I used in this thread. Last time I try to help someone. This place can be quite fucked up. Modern downvoting is a scourge.

      • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zoneOP
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        9 months ago

        Yeah I figured this is the issue but I couldn’t be bothered writing any body text. And YouTuber’s have a habit of using the first sentence or paragraph of the video description for their appeals which of course gets picked up as the summary by social media sites. Argh!