• Bongo_Stryker
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    Hey, it’s just business, that’s what you do! You haggle. Nobody got hurt so what’s the big deal? Everyone does it. Lying is ok. When it’s business. I don’t know what you guys are being so righteous about.

    Plus, Donald Trump was the President of the United States. Think about that! How’s it going to look if we try to hold a political leader to some arbitrary moral standard just for lying and shady business dealings?! They don’t do that in Russia, that’s for sure.

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      9 months ago

      That’s what fraud is. When someone is damaged.

      It’s why several business have said they are leaving New York and the governor sent out a statement.

      Like or dislike Trump. Using the court systems to attack a political opponent is terrifying. That’s what a fascist leader does. They weaponize the court system.

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        Absolutely. Punishing people for fraudulent financial statements makes a mockery of our judicial system.

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            9 months ago

            These are good questions. Here are some more:

            Who used false statements in business? Who intended to falsify business records? Who intended to conspire to falsify business records? Who intended to issue a false financial statement? Who intended to conspire to issue a false financial statement? Why are any of these things illegal in New York?

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                So for those of you reading along at home, wintermule doesn’t dispute that there were false business records and false financial statements issued, nor dispute that there was intent to do so, nor dispute that there was conspiracy to do so.

                People are like " Meh, sure we know he’s a liar and a crook, but whaddya gonna do? He’s our leader! You can’t punish him for breaking the law when nobody got hurt!"

                Shameless.

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                  No not false. Unaudited and the bank was aware and made adjustments. You really didn’t listen to anything in the case did you ?

                  This is how all commercial loans are done.

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                    Oh I see. Not false, unaudited.

                    It’s like Not torture, Strong interrogation!

                    Or perhaps, Not teaching kids to pass standardized tests at the expense of creativity and critical thinking, The No Child Left Behind Act!

                    Not child abuse, after-school time with Miss Nancy!

                    Ok last one: Not pointlessly wreck a shit-ton of expensive equipment and kill a bunch of civilians, Operation Desert Storm!

                    Well anyway I did read the judgement. It seems to address your objections.

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                Apparently you the way you cry to everybody about it.

                “Trump lied and got more money? But who’s money? That’s right, nobody!”

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                  I get you don’t mind fascism but normal people do. Weaponizing the courts isn’t acceptable. No victim. No lost money. Everyone made money. The banks ever testified they’d do the deals again and hope to work with him in the future.

                  Sounds like you feel like you are th victim.

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                    Defending dishonesty and wanting them to be president sure sounds like fascism to me. But go ahead and keep believing that Trump is an innocent man.

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                    Weaponizing the courts isn’t acceptable.

                    “Lock her up! Lock her up!”

                    A presidential candidate calling for that exact thing is acceptable though. Got it.