• Throwaway@lemm.eeM
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    9 months ago

    Ive been thinking about this comment.

    Its true that I dont know the history or foundation of being pro-guns/pro-2a/etc but I do know the history of disarmed populations.

    Theres also the stat that college educated people are more likely to be left wing.

    I wonder if conservative idea are more naturally evolving than progressive ideas.

    In other words, left wing ideas are instructed but right wing ideas are not.

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      9 months ago

      Its funny to put conservative and evolving together in the same sentence. First, because a lot of religious conservatives don’t believe in evolution. Secondly, “evolution” implies change and innovation, and conservatism, in the traditionalist sense, has the attitude that change for the sake of change is generally not a good idea. Russell Kirk, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kirk probably one of the most influential thinkers in American conservativism, said that two of the most important concepts are:

      "A faith in custom, convention, and prescription, and

      A recognition that innovation must be tied to existing traditions and customs, which entails a respect for the political value of prudence."

      Right wing ideas are very much instructed in schools and in churches. I went to one of those schools and one of those churches. Right wing ideas are also instructed via tv channels, websites and think-tanks, paid for by those who want to promote those ideas, although I realize that’s not what you mean by instructed in the school sense. Prager U isn’t a school but it does right wing instruction.

      It may seem like these ideas arise naturally and organically in the minds of free thinking people, but political ideologies -left or right- don’t spontaneously appear out of nothing. If you have opinions but can’t point to where they come from other than “its just right” then your thinking has been influenced without you knowing it. And that’s not a good thing for anyone.

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        9 months ago

        First, because a lot of religious conservatives don’t believe in evolution

        Which is a pet peeve of mine. Coming from a science background, it annoys me. I grew up with religion but I’m not religious. I’m not anti-religious either. Some people feel the two collide but I don’t. Evolution still has lots of questions but science is a journey, not a destination. It’s the best theory we have and fairly well documented in the fossil record. It didn’t mean there is or isn’t a good. It just shows how we adapt over time.

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          9 months ago

          Well I don’t know how you figure. Some would say that to accept evolution is to deny the Bible, which amounts to denial of God. It also seems like to be “not religious” is by definition anti-religion, because if you were not against some aspect of traditional American society then you’d be a part of it. If you grew up with it, then at some point there was a rejection.

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            9 months ago

            I never rejected it as I never believed it. I don’t have any semblance of faith. I go to mass on occasion because it’s tradition, not because I believe. I like the pageantry of it all.

            As such I let people practive their religion and don’t interfere with it. I am a strong advocate of the 1st amendment.