SPEC says Intel's Xeon processors were using a compiler that artificially inflated the results of its industrial benchmark by as much as 9%.

Intel accused of inflating CPU benchmark results::SPEC says Intel’s Xeon processors were using a compiler that artificially inflated the results of its industrial benchmark by as much as 9%.

  • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    9 months ago

    So they put out an article claiming that the thermal safety was defective, and the thermal safety was defective, and you see that as some grandiose conspiracy perpetrated by Intel? And you’re still upset about it?

    Even if Intel did discover and publish the defect, what exactly did they do wrong? I would reasonably expect AMD and Intel to be testing each other’s hardware constantly. Would you have preferred that Intel didn’t publish their findings?

    • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      9 months ago

      The thermal safety was not defective, only a few years prior thermal safety wasn’t even available. The article created an artificial situation that never occurs in reality, and claimed the CPU should be able to handle that.

      The CPU handled a fan suddenly cutting off just fine, it handled being turned on without a cooler just fine. Only if the CPU was running full throttle, and the cooling block “fell off” suddenly and completely, the throttle wasn’t fast enough.

      When did you ever hear about that actually happening?

      • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
        212·
        9 months ago

        So you’re saying that the CPU burning out when the cooler is removed, is the thermal safety working as intended? Sorry, I am not familiar with the situation, but the way you initially described the issue doesn’t sound like foul play.

        Edit: y’all are simping for a $300 billion dollar company rn lol

        • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          9 months ago

          The cooler falling off is an impossible situation. It’s a completely bullshit metric. Intel CPUs of the time ran hotter, used more power, and had lower IPC, hence the higher clock speeds but lower actual performance. They had to invent some bullshit to make themselves look good.

          Besides, just a while before that generation thermal safety wasn’t even a thing, if you remove the cooler from older Intel processors it just catches fire lol

          • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            The cooler falling off is an impossible situation. It’s a completely bullshit metric.

            I don’t disagree - I can’t imagine that ever happening in real life. But taking the cooler off while it’s running? I can definitely envision my idiot 13-year-old self doing that back when I was building my first PC.

            Intel CPUs of the time ran hotter, used more power, and had lower IPC, hence the higher clock speeds but lower actual performance. They had to invent some bullshit to make themselves look good.

            Given this information, I probably still would have gone with the Athlon. Are you saying that a report about a very-difficult-to-trigger defect in the thermal safety single-handedly convinced thousands/millions of potential customers to choose the Pentium instead?

            Besides, just a while before that generation thermal safety wasn’t even a thing, if you remove the cooler from older Intel processors it just catches fire lol

            I’m guessing that’s why thermal safety was a selling point, no?

            • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              It was part a larger unethical media campaign and bribery chain by Intel. They did their damn best to hurt AMD, and they managed to pull it off, but some time later AMD brought their asses to court and sued over it, with literally billions in damages and agreements that Intel had to pay.

              • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                some time later AMD brought their asses to court and sued over it, with literally billions in damages and agreements that Intel had to pay.

                A ha! This part of the story hasn’t been brought up yet, and it sounds like it would completely change my opinion.

                • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AB2LL/

                  AMD has argued that Intel used illegal means to preserve its 80 percent share of the global market for central processing units, which are the brains of personal computers. Regulators in Asia and Europe have agreed, imposing fines and other remedies on Intel. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission is close to filing its own complaint, sources have said.

                  • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    9 months ago

                    I read that article and looked around a bit, and I can’t find anything related to AMD’s thermal safety mechanisms. What am I missing?