It’s nearly impossible with modern electric installations, fuses and what not. In the olden times it happened quite often as an accident, most often with hair dryers used when still sitting in the bath. (Don’t ask me why people were so dumb.)
I suppose death by toaster always was a suicide as drying your hair with a toaster is very, very impractical.
Even without modern things like ground fault interrupts and fuses it would be pretty hard to actually get a shock you would die from in a bathtub.
Water by itself isn’t actually that conductive, it’s the impurities that conduct the electricity. Now you could argue that a bath a person has sat in probably has a lot of salts from the body and maybe some kind of bath soap with a lot of salt in it. But still it will be hard to get an electric shock enough to kill.
Usually when someone dies from electric shock, it’s because the heart gets interrupted and doesn’t resume the normal function. The brain dies from lack of oxygen. In a bathtub the normal flow of electricity would be from the toaster to the drain which is normally earthed, either directly (modern installation) or indirectly (old installation). There would be no reason for the electricity to go trough the body, as the body is at the same electric potential as the rest of the water.
Let’s assume the water isn’t grounded in any way, a fully plastic tub without an earthed drain or taps. Then the most direct path for the electricity is to go from the hot line to the neutral line. This will probably mostly go trough the heating element, but a part will also go through the salty water. The water in between the two sides of the toaster will get heating and may even boil, plus the heating element will degrade due to the reaction, but outside the toaster the water won’t be affected much or at all. The hot water would be more dangerous than the electricity.
If the person were to be close to the hot and neutral sides of the toaster at the same time, maybe it would be enough to kill? Most likely it would be enough to cramp up the muscles in the arms, but probably not enough to stop a heart.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it would be pretty hard.
Plus we’ve all seen the BigClive vids where he puts his hands in salty water with electric mains in it.
I imagine the more likely way you’d die in that situation isn’t from the shock directly but due to being stunned/paralyzed/disoriented and drown in the bath.
There’s a scene from James Bond, where he throws a space heater in a bathtub to electrocute a foe. I guess that cemented the idea that you could be killed in that manner.
Ok but seriously are there any sources citing anyone ever committing s*icide via toaster in bathtub? What is the origin of this trope?
It’s nearly impossible with modern electric installations, fuses and what not. In the olden times it happened quite often as an accident, most often with hair dryers used when still sitting in the bath. (Don’t ask me why people were so dumb.)
I suppose death by toaster always was a suicide as drying your hair with a toaster is very, very impractical.
Even without modern things like ground fault interrupts and fuses it would be pretty hard to actually get a shock you would die from in a bathtub. Water by itself isn’t actually that conductive, it’s the impurities that conduct the electricity. Now you could argue that a bath a person has sat in probably has a lot of salts from the body and maybe some kind of bath soap with a lot of salt in it. But still it will be hard to get an electric shock enough to kill. Usually when someone dies from electric shock, it’s because the heart gets interrupted and doesn’t resume the normal function. The brain dies from lack of oxygen. In a bathtub the normal flow of electricity would be from the toaster to the drain which is normally earthed, either directly (modern installation) or indirectly (old installation). There would be no reason for the electricity to go trough the body, as the body is at the same electric potential as the rest of the water. Let’s assume the water isn’t grounded in any way, a fully plastic tub without an earthed drain or taps. Then the most direct path for the electricity is to go from the hot line to the neutral line. This will probably mostly go trough the heating element, but a part will also go through the salty water. The water in between the two sides of the toaster will get heating and may even boil, plus the heating element will degrade due to the reaction, but outside the toaster the water won’t be affected much or at all. The hot water would be more dangerous than the electricity. If the person were to be close to the hot and neutral sides of the toaster at the same time, maybe it would be enough to kill? Most likely it would be enough to cramp up the muscles in the arms, but probably not enough to stop a heart.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it would be pretty hard.
Plus we’ve all seen the BigClive vids where he puts his hands in salty water with electric mains in it.
I imagine the more likely way you’d die in that situation isn’t from the shock directly but due to being stunned/paralyzed/disoriented and drown in the bath.
Maybe, but on the other hand: https://youtu.be/dcrY59nGxBg
There’s a scene from James Bond, where he throws a space heater in a bathtub to electrocute a foe. I guess that cemented the idea that you could be killed in that manner.