My family fought in both world wars. My grampa was part of the North African campaign, a cousin went down on the HMS Hood after being sunk by the Bismarck during the Battle of the Denmark Strait…
Living in Canada and watching our neighbours to the south gleefully embrace the fascism we ALL fought against is both disgusting and terrifying.
In the 1920s, American intellectuals paid a considerable amount of attention to Mussolini’s early Fascist movement in Italy, but few of them became his supporters. …
According to Noam Chomsky, the rise of fascism raised concerns during the interwar period, but it was largely viewed positively by the U.S. and British governments, the corporate community, and a significant portion of the elite. This was because the fascist interpretation of extreme nationalism allowed for significant economic influence in the West while also destroying the left and the hated labor groups. Hitler, like Saddam Hussein, enjoyed strong British and U.S. support until his direct action, which severely damaged British and U.S. interests.[21]
My unqualified opinion is that there’s still remnants of this that track with old money. If this was possible, culturally, 100 years ago, there’s no reason why it can’t be true today.
Our election favourite (Canada) got the leadership by photo-opting with white supremacist groups and the notion one of his party rivals was a communist
Classic bullshit. He’s been spotted with right leaning groups a woman that actually hangs out with Nazis calls white supremacists. Unfortunately that woman is the finance minister.
Patriotism is a hell of a drug. None of our countries were fighting fascism, exactly. That generations governments were trying to maintain their power, and it was a close fought battle both times. It was stopping the squareheads, krauts, bohunks and nips taking over then. It’s not like our governments don’t do fascist shit anytime they feel like, and can get away with it, but it is more that you think the governments over there, then, weren’t also riding that same line of how far they can push it.
My family fought in both world wars. My grampa was part of the North African campaign, a cousin went down on the HMS Hood after being sunk by the Bismarck during the Battle of the Denmark Strait…
Living in Canada and watching our neighbours to the south gleefully embrace the fascism we ALL fought against is both disgusting and terrifying.
How the hell did this happen?
Disclaimer: not a historian. I only know enough to be dangerous.
I had a longer reply typed up, but then I blundered into this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_in_North_America#United_States
My unqualified opinion is that there’s still remnants of this that track with old money. If this was possible, culturally, 100 years ago, there’s no reason why it can’t be true today.
It’s all downhill
It’s the way things run
Because the old have illusions
And the young have fun
Our election favourite (Canada) got the leadership by photo-opting with white supremacist groups and the notion one of his party rivals was a communist
Classic bullshit. He’s been spotted with right leaning groups a woman that actually hangs out with Nazis calls white supremacists. Unfortunately that woman is the finance minister.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist
Where does the finance minister come into play?
And it was his own followers calling Chong a communist during the race
She’s a bad habit of being photographed with ukraine immigrants waving blood n soil flags.
So not at all
It’s not my fault you can’t understand what you see.
So what is the connection between that and PP, are you saying they work together?
AFAICT all of what’s happening now can be traced back to Reagan and Murdoch.
Patriotism is a hell of a drug. None of our countries were fighting fascism, exactly. That generations governments were trying to maintain their power, and it was a close fought battle both times. It was stopping the squareheads, krauts, bohunks and nips taking over then. It’s not like our governments don’t do fascist shit anytime they feel like, and can get away with it, but it is more that you think the governments over there, then, weren’t also riding that same line of how far they can push it.
Fundamentally: Boomers keep fucking over every generation after them. Literally every problem we’re discussing is a result of that fact.