• Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    But you DONT have a choice. So why do you care? Does that have any bearing on your life, or who you’ll vote for? It’s clearly going to be Dementia Donnie vs. Bumbling Brandon.

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      5 months ago

      I will vote for Biden regardless, but I like to know if he’s fucking up, or if he’s deteriorating. What if he doesn’t make it to November? Is it Harris? One of the weirdos still in the primary? Can any of them beat Trump this late in the game? Should we be making plans, or hoping he stays lucid through the debates?

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        5 months ago

        His handlers won’t allow him to debate. I don’t like Biden, but propping him up like this reeks uncomfortably of elder abuse.

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          I don’t think he has any reason to debate anyone right now. He’s the President, and the Republicans haven’t even nominated anyone yet. Trump is the front-runner, but several things could prevent him from accepting the nomination.

          He could be disqualified under the amendment, he could be incarcerated for one of his many crimes, he could be forced to declare bankruptcy as a result of judgements against him, or he could have a health problem that prevents him from continuing his campaign.

          Biden won’t win anything in a debate with Trump now, and he can lose a lot. Trump won’t have any shame about levelling accusations, and could easily just make up some bullshit on the spot. Trump supporters will take it as gospel, and now Biden has to spend political and financial capital disproving some absurd allegations.

          Biden is better off waiting for the actual debates, and letting Haley take the pot shots at Trump.

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          so… don’t worry about it? just do what we’re told, vote how we’re told, shut up and don’t ask questions?

          you don’t control anything anyway.

          (sounds like fascism to me.)

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            Indeed, I try to not even concern myself with things I have no control over. Don’t you? Do you just constantly live in a ball of depression because at any moment hundreds of children will die from preventable diseases? You consciously or unconsciously draw a line somewhere. I’m asking why anyone should care about this, at all. I’ve yet to see a good reason.

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          My guy, that’s the information people use when they decide who to vote for. What exactly are you trying to make a point about? That no one should even listen to anything about politics or something?

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            Because when it rains, it affects you. Does Biden’s gaffs cause you physical discomfort? Change the properties of your environment? What a stupid analogy.

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              If the President is losing his grip on reality, if he’s unable to campaign, if we have to find a new candidate, yes it does affect me. You might not care, and that’s fine. Nobody is telling you that you have to care, but the news isn’t just what affects your personal sphere of influence.

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                5 months ago

                YOU aren’t picking shit. The Dems are not running a primary. Downvotes make me horny.

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                  I am choosing where to invest my time and political contributions. I am choosing which candidates to support, which ones I research, which ones I talk about with friends. I acknowledge that I don’t have much influence on the overall election, but I prefer to be informed of the news of the day. Unfortunately, more people take pride in their ignorance, loudly proclaiming that they don’t follow politics because they can’t be bothered to participate, and they don’t think it will do much good anyway.

                  IF Biden is deteriorating, we should know what the contingency plan is. We should be talking about how to beat Trump should Biden get worse. Trump can shit into his own mouth, and his supporters will call it gourmet brunch. Biden doesn’t have that luxury. Joe needs to maintain the illusion that he’s in control of his faculties, and if the cracks are showing, I want to be aware of it.

                  It would be weird to me that you don’t, but then I just assume you have an ulterior motive for trying to convince others not to care.