The average employee returning to the office spends $561 per month–that's the average two-person household’s grocery bill in the U.S. for the entire month.
I am asking you what your point is and you’re throwing out ideas not based in reality.
The point that I made, that you are attempting to prove wrong, is that cities have readily available affordable transportation and if more people move to and work in cities they’d become even more robust and human-friendly. I’m suggesting that the lives of people living in the suburbs and working in cities (or pleading not to return to city office spaces), would be more affordable, flexibly, and convenient if they forwent private vehicle ownership in favor of living in a city and utilizing not-private transportation.
You seem to believe that cities do not have not-private transportation or a bus within thirty miles. That is a detail that’s very relevant to the point of the conversation.
It would be helpful to know what cit you live in. I’m in Philadelphia. There’s literally a bus stop 12 steps from my front door. The next three closest stops are each a block away. I can not fathom a city that doesn’t have a bus stop more than a fifteen minute walk - let alone ten miles(!) away.
In my city, it’s substantially cheaper to live here than in the suburbs with a car. This certainly fluctuates across the country but 5-10x more is ridiculous. Maybe twice as much at most or three times as much in places like SF and NY. As I stated from the beginning, those are exceptions.
You have it backwards. It’s the suburbs that are the cause for so many highways. You can’t have suburbs without highways to get around. Cities are self contained. I have no need for a highway. Nor a parking lot. It’s the people who live in the suburbs who visit and work in the city who use parking lots. This is all apparent in your own statement; “selling a car… cities build more highways” is grossly illogical.
You are clearly hyper focused on people who live in a suburb and want to get to a city. You are ignoring the entire point of the conversation.
I am asking you what your point is and you’re throwing out ideas not based in reality.
The point that I made, that you are attempting to prove wrong, is that cities have readily available affordable transportation and if more people move to and work in cities they’d become even more robust and human-friendly. I’m suggesting that the lives of people living in the suburbs and working in cities (or pleading not to return to city office spaces), would be more affordable, flexibly, and convenient if they forwent private vehicle ownership in favor of living in a city and utilizing not-private transportation.
You seem to believe that cities do not have not-private transportation or a bus within thirty miles. That is a detail that’s very relevant to the point of the conversation.
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It would be helpful to know what cit you live in. I’m in Philadelphia. There’s literally a bus stop 12 steps from my front door. The next three closest stops are each a block away. I can not fathom a city that doesn’t have a bus stop more than a fifteen minute walk - let alone ten miles(!) away.
In my city, it’s substantially cheaper to live here than in the suburbs with a car. This certainly fluctuates across the country but 5-10x more is ridiculous. Maybe twice as much at most or three times as much in places like SF and NY. As I stated from the beginning, those are exceptions.
You have it backwards. It’s the suburbs that are the cause for so many highways. You can’t have suburbs without highways to get around. Cities are self contained. I have no need for a highway. Nor a parking lot. It’s the people who live in the suburbs who visit and work in the city who use parking lots. This is all apparent in your own statement; “selling a car… cities build more highways” is grossly illogical.
You are clearly hyper focused on people who live in a suburb and want to get to a city. You are ignoring the entire point of the conversation.
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