This is a very simple concept: big army with lots of troops and supplies needs to hold ground behind big ass river
No. To fulfil their war goals Russia needs to move to the oblast borders, also over that river, just to gain control over territory they already claim to be legally part of the Russian Federation. They’re not doing that. They have, in your words, no momentum. What they do have is getting attritted.
As for the Ukrainians fighting on forever, Poland getting involved, and China abandoning Russia; this is entirely speculation based on your personal vibes. None of the factual ground evidence supports any of it.
If Russia was intended to continue advancing, they wouldn’t have dug trenches. They’re playing the long game. They knew the US would abandon Ukraine at the first opportunity and we did. This is just as much a proxy war with the West as it is a war with Ukraine. It’s within the US’s best interest to keep the war going on as long as possible so as soon as Ukraine started making gains we decided to pull back on the reigns.
War goals don’t need to be achieved for Russia to declare victory. Putin would surely spin it as him being a kind leader that’s willing to accept peace over war goals. But the real war goals have already been achieved anyways.
Polls = most accurate representation of real world scenarios that never differ from what actually happens…oh wait.
If Russia was intended to continue advancing, they wouldn’t have dug trenches.
How to tell me you have no idea about strategy without telling me you don’t have any idea about strategy.
Ukraine, too, is digging trenches. Now what, are you claiming Ukraine doesn’t want to regain its territory?
proxy war
Oh, indeed, some truth at least: Yes this is a proxy war between South and North Korea. South Korea’s proxy is Ukraine, the EU and US (and a couple others), while North Korea’s proxy is Russia.
See, both sides to a conflict need to be proxies for something to be a proxy war.
It’s within the US’s best interest to keep the war going on as long as possible
First off, no it isn’t. Secondly, that’s not European strategy. Thirdly, if that’s US government strategy you should call your representatives and tell them to deliver weapons ASAP so that Russia can be thrown out of Ukraine quicker.
War goals don’t need to be achieved for Russia to declare victory.
Indeed, Russia could withdraw and Putin could still declare victory. That’s not what he’s doing, though: He legally annexed the whole of even Kherson and Zaporizha Oblast, I think even Odessa (broadly speaking: The whole Black Sea coast) and any “peace offer” heard from Russia includes Ukraine giving up those territories which Russia doesn’t even hold.
You think this is a proxy war between North and South Korea?! Welp, now that you’ve showed your hand I can see I’m debating a moron and there’s no winning this one. Enjoy eating crayons, little buddy
I apologize that your joke was so asinine that it went over my head. You should probably look up proxy war so you can understand it better and improve your shit talking. The US is using Ukraine to make money and stopping the war stops the war money. Either way, you’re a big dumb dummy and you should go outside and touch grass
No. To fulfil their war goals Russia needs to move to the oblast borders, also over that river, just to gain control over territory they already claim to be legally part of the Russian Federation. They’re not doing that. They have, in your words, no momentum. What they do have is getting attritted.
Read the polls.
If Russia was intended to continue advancing, they wouldn’t have dug trenches. They’re playing the long game. They knew the US would abandon Ukraine at the first opportunity and we did. This is just as much a proxy war with the West as it is a war with Ukraine. It’s within the US’s best interest to keep the war going on as long as possible so as soon as Ukraine started making gains we decided to pull back on the reigns.
War goals don’t need to be achieved for Russia to declare victory. Putin would surely spin it as him being a kind leader that’s willing to accept peace over war goals. But the real war goals have already been achieved anyways.
Polls = most accurate representation of real world scenarios that never differ from what actually happens…oh wait.
How to tell me you have no idea about strategy without telling me you don’t have any idea about strategy.
Ukraine, too, is digging trenches. Now what, are you claiming Ukraine doesn’t want to regain its territory?
Oh, indeed, some truth at least: Yes this is a proxy war between South and North Korea. South Korea’s proxy is Ukraine, the EU and US (and a couple others), while North Korea’s proxy is Russia.
See, both sides to a conflict need to be proxies for something to be a proxy war.
First off, no it isn’t. Secondly, that’s not European strategy. Thirdly, if that’s US government strategy you should call your representatives and tell them to deliver weapons ASAP so that Russia can be thrown out of Ukraine quicker.
Indeed, Russia could withdraw and Putin could still declare victory. That’s not what he’s doing, though: He legally annexed the whole of even Kherson and Zaporizha Oblast, I think even Odessa (broadly speaking: The whole Black Sea coast) and any “peace offer” heard from Russia includes Ukraine giving up those territories which Russia doesn’t even hold.
You think this is a proxy war between North and South Korea?! Welp, now that you’ve showed your hand I can see I’m debating a moron and there’s no winning this one. Enjoy eating crayons, little buddy
He was mocking you. Your translation software didn’t handle the nuance of sarcasm.
woosh.
I apologize that your joke was so asinine that it went over my head. You should probably look up proxy war so you can understand it better and improve your shit talking. The US is using Ukraine to make money and stopping the war stops the war money. Either way, you’re a big dumb dummy and you should go outside and touch grass