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Evan Paul was playing his second game in net for the North Vancouver Wolf Pack when a fight erupted in the third period of his team’s Jan. 25 game against the Richmond Sockeyes at Minoru Arena.
Video of the fight shows Richmond defenceman Eithan Grishin over top of Paul with his arms around the goaltender for close to 20 seconds. When Grishin lets go, Paul slumps to the ice.
Grishin, 19, was (previously) suspended 16 games for incidents earlier this season, according to the PJHL website.
On Nov. 16, he received a 13-game suspension — five games for harassment of an official, three games as supplemental discipline, two games after receiving a game misconduct for being the third man in a fight, and three games as supplemental discipline for being a repeat offender.
“We can’t ban fighting in hockey!”
Fuck off, how come most sports don’t have fights but hockey players are special like that?
Most sports don’t have the levels of speed or physical contact that hockey does. These players can hit each other at 25mph(40kmph) which is almost twice the speed of football contacts (and 4 times the energy due to e = mv^2)
There’s a really difficult line between “accident” and accident that the refs can’t properly handle, which is why fighting is there to ensure that “accidents” don’t happen as often.
Everything from that extra little poke at a goalie’s glove covering the puck to a hit on a player that was vulnerable matters.
Some players abuse it, but that’s true for everything. Most of the time it does its job just fine.
How does any of that have anything to do with this guy literally strangling the goalie until unconsciousness?
Because the guy wasn’t responding to that prompt. He was responding to the question:
Agreeing with you for the most part, but e = mc^2 isn’t the relevant equation here. That only works if we’re literally annihilating the players out of existence, which might be worth more than the maximum fine allowed by the NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement. Maybe. More sanguine here would be momentum, which is merely a product of mass and velocity.
I think you’re confusing what I actually typed (e = mv^2) with e = mc^2. What I typed is literally mass times velocity squared, and it’s the equation for kinetic energy.
Edit: Oops, missed the 1/2 part, but that’s not really relevant to the discussion or results anyways.
I was also getting at momentum, but I’m an idiot. This is what I get for being an engineer without coffee.
Fuck. I messed up trying to save your message and tripped myself instead. Derp moment here, folks.
Fights don’t do that, the refs do
If the rules don’t allow them to protect players then they need to be changed
The NHL’s problem is that refs are there to keep the games tied so it’s more fun to watch but that issue doesn’t exist here
No they don’t. Refs can’t deal with intent, only result.
At the speed of hockey, there are a ton of actually accidental contacts that occur. I got hit two days ago in a no-hitting league, and both of us know it was a complete accident because neither of us could stop in time.
That’s exactly why I said refs can’t tell the difference between someone making an intentional bad hit and someone who just didn’t quite turn out out of the way in time because they didn’t notice early enough.
There should be no incidental contact in your example
As per the example the two of you were going too fast, that wouldn’t happen if the threat of being removed from the league over accidental contact existed
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How big of a crowd are your no contact rec leagues getting?
If the players want to play hard why are they in a no contact league?
You just sound like an idiot
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Oh you’re one of those people that everyone hates
Chill out during your games
That wouldn’t be hockey anymore.
And if soccer was played on a pitch then it wouldn’t be soccer anymore
There is a video in the article that shows what happened and it had sfa to do with speed.
Going off topic to justify all the violence that happens in hockey isn’t the argument you think it is.
Are there times shit happens without intent? Ofc there is. But in this instance that is obviously not the case.
Watch the video
I didn’t respond to discussions about this incident. I responded to someone else going off topic.
So fuck right off.
Fighting is fine. There are rules surrounding fighting in hockey, like there are rules in boxing and mma and tackle football and every other contact sport.
Choking is attempted murder. That should be an immediate lifetime ban from the sport at all levels and criminal charges should be filed.
Also the rest of the world plays hockey without needing to fight.
It’s just America
Uh…this happened in Canada.
Canada is in America. North America
TIL Canada and Mexico are part of the United States
It’s the United States of America, America is the continent.
North America is the continent buddy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
The Americas, sometimes collectively called America,[4][5][6] are a landmass comprising the totality of North and South America
You are putting in a lot of effort to die on the dumbest hill ever.
Not this argument again…
You’re playing really loose with the semantics, but whatever.