I hate that that’s what we’re reduced to, but we have one deeply uninspiring and frustratingly out-of-touch candidate, and one completely psychotic narcissistic authoritarian candidate. There is a very obvious “correct” choice here, both as an American voter and as a human.
…yes…? It’s also less bad than the alternative. And you’re not going to be able to persuade me that voting 3rd party in the general is a good idea, because it is most definitely not a good idea if you want to prevent Trump from getting into office.
I hate the two-party system too. But pretending it doesn’t exist is a great way to get steamrolled by it.
This wasn’t the point though. It is that both options are bad. Yes, one is objectively less bad, but I’d guess a majority of Americans will not vote for Biden but instead against Trump.
I will absolutely cast a vote for Biden, but not because I like Biden.
For decades many voters in Western nations have collectively held their noses and voted for the person who they believed would do the least amount of damage.
This isn’t democracy in action. It’s simply having nobody to vote for.
This is very much a millennial perspective. Looking at a demographic table, it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most Americans are boomers. And older people vote more often than younger people.
We may see Trump and Biden as weak candidates, but this is literally what they want. It is democracy in action. We just don’t outnumber the older Americans lol. It’s obviously changing. Otherwise Sanders wouldn’t have made it as far as he did in 2016 and 2020.
I’m not American, but whenever I talk to my young friends out there they tell me about impossible they’ve made it to go vote. Not being near a bus route, their employers cutting their hours for going out, just a huge hassle for them in general.
Me too, China. Me too.
Bro, there is clearly a less-bad choice.
I hate that that’s what we’re reduced to, but we have one deeply uninspiring and frustratingly out-of-touch candidate, and one completely psychotic narcissistic authoritarian candidate. There is a very obvious “correct” choice here, both as an American voter and as a human.
maybe, but it’s still bad nonetheless
…yes…? It’s also less bad than the alternative. And you’re not going to be able to persuade me that voting 3rd party in the general is a good idea, because it is most definitely not a good idea if you want to prevent Trump from getting into office.
I hate the two-party system too. But pretending it doesn’t exist is a great way to get steamrolled by it.
This wasn’t the point though. It is that both options are bad. Yes, one is objectively less bad, but I’d guess a majority of Americans will not vote for Biden but instead against Trump.
I will absolutely cast a vote for Biden, but not because I like Biden.
I think most of the goddamn country is of the same mind
Refusing to ever act on it is a great way to perpetuate it as well.
If Trump loses this election, will you decide to start changing your voting habits to bring what you need or will the next rwnj force your hand again?
I’m actually hoping that the DNC leadership will get thrown out and the progressive wing becomes WAY more powerful.
For the record, I vote in every election I can. In the primaries, I basically never just stick with the establishment candidate.
… depends on one’s goal: a better or a worse America.
China and Russia, as the other superpowers, most definitely want a worse USA.
Iran wouldn’t mind destabilizing the infidels.
What’s boggling is that there are American voters who apparently want a worse USA. Though that seems to apply to quite a few western democracies.
That’s not good enough.
So you want to just hand the presidency to fascists because Biden is, while not an outright fascist, an extremely milquetoast candidate?
Pull your head out of your ass and at least try to be realistic.
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For decades many voters in Western nations have collectively held their noses and voted for the person who they believed would do the least amount of damage.
This isn’t democracy in action. It’s simply having nobody to vote for.
This is very much a millennial perspective. Looking at a demographic table, it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most Americans are boomers. And older people vote more often than younger people.
We may see Trump and Biden as weak candidates, but this is literally what they want. It is democracy in action. We just don’t outnumber the older Americans lol. It’s obviously changing. Otherwise Sanders wouldn’t have made it as far as he did in 2016 and 2020.
I was born in the early 60’s so nowhere close to a millenial.
Then you’re bucking the trend of your generation!
Punk rock!
Not true. Boomers are on the decline now and it’s a steep cliff from here out.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/04/28/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers-as-americas-largest-generation/
Definitely correct about them voting more than other groups, cannot argue with that at all. Young people need to get off their ass and actually vote.
I’m not American, but whenever I talk to my young friends out there they tell me about impossible they’ve made it to go vote. Not being near a bus route, their employers cutting their hours for going out, just a huge hassle for them in general.
Definitely true, but it doesn’t account for everyone under 40 who doesn’t make it out to the polls. A lot of that is apathy or laziness.