Actually surprised he dropped out this early.

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    Looks like it’s Trump then, I don’t believe Haley has much chance. Conservatives want to maintain racial and gender hierarchies so there’s no way the majority will vote for a woman president.

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      That’s democrats who want the racial and gender caste system. I’d vote for Haley. Most people I know would.

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        You mean the party that voted a black man into the white house? You mean the party that gave the popular vote to a woman?

        Haley was behind DeSantis and DeSantis dropped out. It’s unlikely.

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        The front runner for the party continuously suggest every non-white man isn’t allowed to be president for “reasons”. He set up concentration camps for immigrants, praises white supremists, attacks Native Americans and has a whole litany of issue with Chinese people. Acknowledging race issues and trying to fix them isn’t racist, actively perpetuating them is

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          He set up concentration camps for immigrants,

          Detention camps were around before Trump. You have a cite that Trump was the first one to detain illegal aliens? That would be earth shattering.

          praises white supremists,

          Do you have a cite for that?

          attacks Native Americans

          Do you have a cite for that?

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            Ugh you guys are so annoying. We were there, you cheered him on as he did this and now it’s all “source???” “citation???” “statistics?”

            1. No I don’t have to say Trump was the first to set up “migrant” detention facilties. Just that he made them significantly worse or that he purposely separated families from each other, which is textbook eugenics

            2. Here he is doubling down on his praise for Charlottesville white supremists and Robert E. Lee (a traitor by the way, even though we aren’t talking about that)

            3. And here’s a governmental body telling you how shitty he was to the people who were here first. Also that doesn’t even address his super shitty comments to Elizabeth Warren

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              Just that he made them significantly worse or that he purposely separated families from each other, which is textbook eugenics

              Did he make things worse for criminals? Oh dear.

              It has nothing to do with eugenics. That is a very ignorant comment. Eugenics is about genetics. Bless your heart

              The children were separated to keep them safe. That is the same thing Obama did. It’s smart to keep the children separate from the criminal adults.

              Here he is doubling down on his praise for Charlottesville white supremists

              Which is false.

              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/17/fact-check-trump-quote-very-fine-people-charlottesville/5943239002/

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                Hey dipshit, you know laws are made up right? You know the holocaust was legally allowed in Germany, right? You can make anything a law, that doesn’t make it morally correct. I’d be a little more tempted to believe this wasn’t race based hatred if he really cared about illegal immigration but statistically the largest sources of illegal immigration comes from Asia and Europeans overstaying their visas. But he continues to harp on a useless border wall (they have ladders in Mexico) and he couldn’t even make that work because he’s so fucking incompetent. Also eugenics is about controlling the population of specific groups. One of the key steps in that is separating families to make their lives more difficult and to discourage them from reproducing. You know, the exact thing he was trying to do

                Also try reading your own source:

                Trump responded: “Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”

                After further questioning from the reporter, and responses from Trump about people who were at the Charlottesville rally to support keeping the Lee statue, the president said, “You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.”

                First off, those two statements are unrelated, secondly he was telling Proud Boys to" Stand by, and stand ready" which sure sounds like a racist dog whistle. Finally if he wasn’t talking about neo-nazis and white supremists, who was he talking about? White supremists marched and murdered, he said there were good people on both sides. Or was he supporting them in one sentence and then decrying them in the next? Which would make him a hypocrite at best and an idiot at worst

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                    Oh yeah, the people who insist on calling people names have the high road on morality. Right. Sometimes idiots need to be told they’re idiots, and I’m happy to provide that service

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                  You can make anything a law, that doesn’t make it morally correct.

                  So you think it’s morally correct to allow kids to be harmed by adults? You are sick. That is why the law was in place under previous administrations as well.

                  more tempted to believe this wasn’t race based hatred

                  Mexican isn’t a race. How to show you are racist without saying it. Mexican is a nationality.

                  Also eugenics is about controlling the population of specific groups.

                  No. It is about genetics.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

                  is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population

                  First off, those two statements are unrelated, secondly he was telling Proud Boys to" Stand by, and stand ready" which sure sounds like a racist dog whistle.

                  Have you always been a racist? The Proud Boys was led by a black man and has a disproportionate number of Latinos and blacks in the ranks.

                  You have said several overtly racist things here and such I am going to end the conversation. I do not partake in conversations with racists.

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                    Ooooh, you know you’re making a good point when people are discussing political leaders and you call your opponent a pedophile when that had nothing to do with the conversation. You really got me, I’m the real bad guy here. And you’re citing Wikipedia to me? And I’m the real deal super racist? I thought having a singular black friend defending made me immune to that criticism but I got my ass handed to me by a dumbass conservative on the internet.

                    Your shitty racist guy won’t be president now and your back-up shitty racist guy is who you want to president. I’d respect you more if you just came out and said you were awful. Instead you think you have the moral high ground by supporting a school ground bully. Congrats, you really owned a lib

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        EXACTLY! DEMOCRATS are the ones backing a known Rapist while passing laws making it ILLEGAL for women and little girls to receive Life Saving Healthcare while complaining that Black People are in their party and REFUSING to Denounce Nazis!

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          Who’s the rapist? Bill Clinton?

          Who’s complaining about minorities?

          Who’s refusing to denounce genocidal maniacs?