Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.
“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.
The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.
“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”
Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.
The chance isn’t just slim. It’s astronomical.
The chance of Cornell West winning is probably smaller than a bit-flip happening, switching your vote to another candidate. That’s how little chance your vote would have to make the country a better place.
On the other hand, every vote not casted for the only viable non-Trump candidate helps Trump.
I’m European and would love for you to have the option to vote for proper social democrats or greens (especially greens!). But please, every US citizen needs to do their part to not get fascists get hold of your country.
It’s sad to say, but if you don’t vote for the democratic candidate, you might not have a chance to vote 3rd party in 4 years. (I don’t like fear mongering, but it’s a real enough possibility)
a vote cat against Trump does not help Trump. you are spreading misinformation.
Clearly you don’t understand the first-past-the-post system the US presidential election utilises.
This person has been going off in almost every post on the topic, and myself among many others have tried to explain to the their logic is entirely flawed. They’re a lost case. But responding to them with the truth of how things work will at least help anyone on the fence that they met accidentally influence.
this is poisoning the well.
Only if it’s untrue. Your comment history and the responses received proves the truth of it.
>Only if it’s untrue.
wrong. when I say is true or untrue regardless of what I may have said or done in the past.
Yep. Blocking you now. This is pointless. I’ve done my job here.
>Blocking you now.
thank God
I do, and it doesn’t change whether what I said is true.
How many people need to explain to you that this is NOT how it works? I’ve done it- others have done it. And you just report them and move on.
You can’t be this stubborn to not accept when you’re wrong, can you?
I’ll explain it again:
A vote for Biden cancels a vote for Trump. As we know, Trump’s loyalists will show up in droves to support their dictator. If you do ANYTHING outside of voting for the one person that stands a chance to beat him- you’re throwing away a vote and allowing a vote for Trump to be counted unchallenged.
We alll know Biden sucks. But so does a total loss of democracy. And that’s what you’re looking at. I’ve lost family over this. I’m blacklisted from ever speaking to actual family members because I won’t support Trump.
THIS is what you’re up against. Now is NOT the time to take a stand against single issue agendas.
Vote like your freedom is at stake. Because it Is.
>I’ve lost family over this. I’m blacklisted from ever speaking to actual family members because I won’t support Trump.
this is very sad to hear, and I hope you can fix those relationships.
>THIS is what you’re up against. Now is NOT the time to take a stand against single issue agendas.
genocide is one of a long list of reasons I haven’t voted Democrat for president since 2008.
lol…. I’m not here to argue with you. Your report people And get accounts banned. I’m just replying to counter you in the event someone reading along is even considering taking you seriously.
>Your report people And get accounts banned.
people aren’t banned because of reports. they’re banned because of their conduct.
>I’m not here to argue with you.
Good. I never wanted you to say a word to me.
>A vote for Biden cancels a vote for Trump.
no, both are counted as one vote for the respective candidates
Okay, as I’ve said- you’re wrong, and myself along with countless others have explained this to you. So again, I’m not here to change your mind- just to counter the disinformation you spread.
You’re literally spreading election misinformation here.
>We alll know Biden sucks. But so does a total loss of democracy. And that’s what you’re looking at.
no, it is not
>If you do ANYTHING outside of voting for the one person that stands a chance to beat him- you’re throwing away a vote and allowing a vote for Trump to be counted unchallenged.
wrong. I’m voting for cornel west, a different candidate. they aren’t allowed to just throw out votes.
A vote for West does nothing, and means nothing if you’re in a safe Red or a safe Blue state. Safe states are going Trump or Biden regardless of who you personally vote for.
In a SWING state, your vote does make a difference and voting for West is a lost vote. Congratulations on helping Trump win if you’re in a swing state.
a vote for west gets counted as a vote for west and puts him one vote closer to winning the election.
West will not win any election, so any vote for him is a vote thrown away.
Elections are won by 50%+1. Anything that takes away from a legitimate candiate reaching 50%+1 actively hurts that campaign, it’s not helping someone whose support sits in the margin of error.
the language of “legitimate candidate” implies there are illegitimate candidates. and that’s peak irony: i am continually told that this election means the end of democracy.
There are a whole host of illegitimate candidates. My favorite was a guy named Lyndon Larouche who was grade A insane, but he also had a major fanbase and was always running for President.
His main platform was that the primary enemy of the United States was England and that the Queen of England was a cocaine smuggler.
He regularly got about the same number of votes Cornel West will get.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche
>West will not win any election
you can’t prove this.
Sure I can. The most successful 3rd party candidate we ever had was Ross Perot in 1992. He got just under 19% of the total vote and won exactly 0 elections.
West is nowhere NEAR the level Perot was at in 1992.
>Congratulations on helping Trump win if you’re in a swing state.
i can’t believe a mod is allowed to lie and spread election misinformation here. a vote for west does not help trump win. only votes for trump do that.
When multiple people are telling you that your rationale is wrong, maybe it’s time to recognize the problem is not everyone else. ;)
i think what you, and all those who have been lying about this, mean is that it doesn’t help the only candidate who (you believe) can win.
well, if he wanted my vote, he’d try to get it.
He’s been trying to get your vote for 4 years by being the opposite of Trump.
No, but you are.
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