• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I never said anything like that. The Houthis have attacked ships that are entirely irrelevant to the Israelis. That’s why they’ve declared war on the world. I’ve been pretty clear about that. So we’re done here since you want to try and insert stupid stuff.

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      10 months ago

      Name one.

      Globalization sort of means that a lot of ships and shipping companies are relevant to the Israelis.

      Edit: if you name a ship that was struck with AIS off… There’s a reason it’s a violation of international law to turn off AIS. People might think you’re trying to avoid sanctions, or something.

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        10 months ago

        Al Jasrah.

        And no. You don’t get to engage in piracy and then demand your victims let you know where they are.

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          10 months ago

          Aren’t they operated by Hapag Lloyd, which both maintains a Two Aviv office and is currently still shipping to Israel?

          Enforcement of sanctions is a legitimate use of AIS. Evasion of sanctions is subject to the appropriate risks.

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            10 months ago

            That’s not how sanctions, blockades, or embargoes work. The world economy would never survive if it was. If you declare war on anyone whose ever set foot in Israel then you are, again, de facto declaring war on the entire world.

            The Houthis really fucked up.

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              10 months ago

              And yet, COSCO is still transiting Bab-el-Mandeb.

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                  10 months ago

                  The world economy can survive without Israel, as COSCO has plainly demonstrated.

                  That’s sort of the goal of sanctions.

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                    10 months ago

                    Nobody said shit about surviving without Israel. The Houthis shut down the straight leading to the Suez Canal. That is not a blockade of Israel. It is a blockade of the busiest international shipping route in the world.

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              10 months ago

              You do realize that that’s exactly what’s happening to Cuba, and the world economy is still functioning?

              Oh, wait, are we still pretending that Kennedy didn’t place a blockade on Cuba?

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                10 months ago

                The blockade ended on November 20th 1962. Any non US ships can go to Cuba just fine.