• PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    we just keep them incarcerated.

    How very freedom. We are number one in prisoners per capita. Land of the Free my ass.

    Any system that intentionally increases crime, prisoners per capita, and cost is a bad system. There are alternatives that reduce all three. But it requires everyone investing in education.

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      11 months ago

      How very freedom. We are number one in prisoners per capita. Land of the Free my ass.

      We have lots of criminals. They should be in jail or prison to keep society safe.

      Nobody is intentionally increasing crime. That’s a strawman. If they they want better education. Pay for it. It’s that simple. It’s not my job to pay for everyone’s education. I pay for the education in my area.

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        11 months ago

        Nobody is intentionally increasing crime

        Republicans and people like you are trying to destroy education. And that leads to higher crime rates.

        So ultimately you’re saying you want higher crime rates.

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          11 months ago

          Not at all. Republicans are trying to fix education. Instead of focusing on gender and sexuality. We want to focus on reading, writing and math.

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            11 months ago

            Republicans are trying to destroy education by siphoning money away from already underfunded schools. Y’all aren’t trying to fix it. You’re just focusing on culture war bullshit.

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              11 months ago

              Not true at all. Can you show more money yields better results? That would be interesting since most studies don’t show that at all.

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                  11 months ago

                  Then why are talking about money? You said the were siphoning off money which isn’t true but even if it was, who cares if it doesn’t change the outcome?

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                    11 months ago

                    Then why are talking about money?

                    Because a school needs money to operate. There is a minimum amount of money it takes to operate a school. Taking money away from an already struggling school will just make things worse.

                    You said the were siphoning off money which isn’t true

                    So then where is the money coming from? The government’s budget is a zero sum game.

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        11 months ago

        If they they want better education. Pay for it. It’s that simple. It’s not my job to pay for everyone’s education. I pay for the education in my area.

        I mean, I’m no deontologist…but what do you think would happen if everyone believed this?

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          11 months ago

          They’d pay for their own education. Maybe you meant the one down where you weight consequences

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            11 months ago

            Would they pay for their own education? But yeah, weighing the consequences of a bunch of ignorant people running around is important, too.

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              11 months ago

              Well they don’t know in many cases. I put my kid in a private school.

              I pay taxes to support the schools where I live now. The schools are fairly crappy in my opinion. The kids don’t score well on tests but they know every gender and sexuality out there.

              The conservatives are trying to take over the school board to fix that. School is a serious topic and more money isn’t always the answer. The number one indicator is parent involvement for academic success. Something conservatives preach and liberals despise.

              We have a local psychiatrist going for re-election on the board. It was funny to see liberals claim he wasn’t qualified to talk about mental health issues such as sexuality and gender. Tthat teachers are better trained to handle those discussions. smh