• CheeseChief@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Nope, vote based on your values. If everyone did that, you wouldn’t have to settle for evil.

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      11 months ago

      That’s not how American voting works, if everyone voted for who they think is absolute best, the group with the most unity wins, which is exactly why political parties exist.

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        11 months ago

        Yes, Unity. That is what I’m referring to. It just seems voters are only worried about being on the “winning” side and that is their Unity - winning and not what is best for them.

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      11 months ago

      A plan that depends on everyone spontaneously deciding to do what you think is best is no plan at all.

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        11 months ago

        I just think that most people would like to have Government out of their wallet and personal lives. If those people all voted for a candidate who wanted the same, then change could happen.

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          11 months ago

          Most people aren’t libertarians.

          And there’s little to no historical precedent for people spontaneously uniting around a third party candidate. There is, OTOH, precedent for the spoiler effect causing an unpopular candidate to win.

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        11 months ago

        I just think if people would look at what they value, find a matching candidate, vote for said candidate; things would be less of a shits show.

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          11 months ago

          Exactly; you don’t understand basic game theory. The options you lay out are not in fact part of the equation. If we’re playing a game in which you have only two choices, opting for a third make-believe alternative is going to result in a losing outcome every time.

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            11 months ago

            I think that the majority of people have a fair moral compass or at least feel that they want less Government meddling in their life?

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              11 months ago

              The fact that Republicans are not winning many elections lately suggests otherwise. Most people want things like social security and medicare. Many of us want a stronger IRS to go after tax fraud. Many more of us want universal healthcare. All of that is government “meddling.”

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                11 months ago

                Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. Why would you need a stronger IRS if people were allowed to decided where to invest their own money? The return on the money put in to SS is minuscule compare to a standard safe investment. You wouldn’t need Universal Healthcare if you could afford things on your own, you could decide on a better insurance, because there would be competition, prices would be driven down and not up. Things only get more expensive when Government gets involved.

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                  11 months ago

                  Your opinions are noted. However, that doesn’t mean most people share your views like you seem to think. Again, if they did, a lot more Republicans would be elected.

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                    11 months ago

                    I think people don’t know there is any other option that the two party. I also think that a lot of that stems from BS Media. I do not understand the correlation you are making between my views and more elected Republicans?