• crashfrog@lemm.ee
      11·
      1 year ago

      When the self appointed good guys are the ones bombing your houses and killing your family -with full approval of the state- it can make you turn to anyone who seems to be on your side.

      Was Israel bombing people’s houses and killing families in 1972, when Palestinians executed the Israeli Olympics team on German TV?

      Oh, wait, no, they weren’t - in 1972 Gazans could freely travel into Israel and even work there, and had a higher living standard due to Israel’s support than literally any other country in the Middle East.

      It hasn’t always been bombing houses and killing families. Palestinians have always been killing Jews, though.

        • crashfrog@lemm.ee
          11·
          1 year ago

          So they cannot now, by your own admission, or you would not have brought it up.

          Yes, of course they can’t. When you allow Palestinians to freely travel into Israel they use the opportunity to murder Jews.

          Egypt and Jordan won’t allow them in, either. You simply can’t trust Palestinians in your society if you value law, stability, and safety. Because they don’t - there isn’t a single organizing principle that they won’t sacrifice to Jew-hatred.

          Also here’s an interesting point; Palestinian Nationalism formed in part in reaction to the 1967 Six Day War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War), in which hostilities came to a head over Isreali expansion into sovereign Palestinian territory.

          Uh-huh. That’s what happened? “Hostilities came to a head”?

            • crashfrog@lemm.ee
              11·
              1 year ago

              Yeah you don’t get to just throw out a couple more vague questions and pretend you properly responded.

              There’s nothing to respond to. You’re clearly an idiot; you identified Black September as “German.”

              Stop pretending Palestinians are some kind of alien species

              They’re not “aliens.” They’re people, mired hopelessly and irredeemably in the world’s oldest naked bigotry and the implacable enemies of their neighbors.

                • crashfrog@lemm.ee
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  Right so you have nothing to say, because your claims are indefensible.

                  You didn’t even attempt to refute them.

                  All the best, please re-examine your obvious bigotries.

                  It’s not “bigotry” to acknowledge how Palestinians are incubated in a culture entirely composed of Jew hate. What do they build? What do they invent?

                  New ways to kill Jews, only.

  • Limitless_screaming@kbin.social
    32·
    1 year ago

    Yes, pro-war factions and governments gain support by their people when there’s an active war, especially when the result of the government losing the war is the enemy taking over.

    Article on Gazan opinions before the war (in June)

    Plus “Israeli” people never needed a war to elect several blood thirsty war criminals, while Palestinians had their land stolen and suffered decades of blockades, discrimination, and murders to get here.

    from the article linked in this post:

    An overwhelming 75 percent support the massacre of innocent Israelis and Jews on October 7, with only 13 percent opposed.

    But the source they provided doesn’t mention that.

      • Limitless_screaming@kbin.social
        31·
        1 year ago

        How can you conclude that? supporting an attack is not the same as supporting the infliction of casualties during it. In fact that’s what the supporters of the current war on Gaza are hiding behind.

        Reasons cited for the October 7 attacks included: responding to oppression, particularly attacks
        on Al Aqsa (35%), and addressing broader issues such as freeing Palestine, ending the occupation,
        and stopping settlements (33%). Breaking the blockade of Gaza was cited as the main reason by
        21% of respondents.

        That’s ~89%

        A small percentage (6%) reported that the main reasons behind the war are related to regional
        interests. This includes serving the interests of Iran (5%) and stopping the ongoing peace and
        normalization process with Israel (1%).

        That’s the remaining ~11%.

        That makes it look like the vast majority of Palestinians are supporting it for the potential of ending their suffering and oppression. Not to kill Jews.

          • Limitless_screaming@kbin.social
            21·
            1 year ago

            Anyone with a brain would also know that given enough time, with the US’ support and the world’s silence Palestine would cease to exist and the population of Gaza will get starved off.

            So any change that could get some attention will have more support than usual. An attack should have been expected, even if Hamas wasn’t governing Gaza.

            Once this is all settled we will see more aggression towards Palestinians with no fucks given for their lovely neighbor’s regular and war crimes.