This has been a hot topic for conservatives. I fully support Ukraine, but at some point, they have to say they can’t push Russia out. Ukraine does not have the manpower or firepower to dislodge Russia. They’ve tried and failed. Western support is starting to go down because they have not made progress.

I don’t know the solution, but right now, it’s just a war of attrition, and Ukraine loses in that scenario. I suspect this will be a big topic of discussion during the presidential debates.

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    Republicans have to be mad at Ukraine and pro-Russia because Trump is mad at Ukraine and pro-Russia. Anyone who doesn’t sincerely express the same sentiments as dear leader Trump risks ostracization. The party of free-thinking rugged individualists. Of course, liberals have the same failing to some degree.

    I think there could be a lot more international pressure brought to bear on Russia. That alone added to the current situation would not be enough to save Ukraine, but I can imagine scenarios in which Russia decides it’s not worth it to continue.

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      I think the Republican leadership is mainly going against Ukraine to spite the Democrats. Most Republicans I know (not leadership) support Ukraine, at least to some extent.

      I am the strongest supporter I know but I won’t support American troops on the ground. I also won’t support our most advanced weapons going to Ukraine but luckily that hasn’t even been suggested.

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        Republican leaders are against something you personally support, and you feel they take that position just to spite the democrats huh? So attacking a sovereign nation and various war crimes (deliberately targeting civilians, rape, torture, bombing a children’s and maternity hospital, etc, etc) are less important to them than sticking it to the democrats? Am I understanding this correctly?

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          It’s my pet theory. Name another war republicans haven’t wanted to fight? I can’t think of any. They didn’t seem to mind when Trump started to send them lethal weapons. They only cared when Biden did.

          And don’t act so pious. Democrats have openly done the same with Israel. Hamas did the same things as Russia. Yet democrats are defending them like crazy.

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            It is because of my piety that the whole thing seems sus. Israel has a right to defend itself but somehow Ukraine doesn’t. I remember prophets in the Bible pointing out that Israel had become unrighteous, corrupt and wayward, but now ppl act like it is impossible for Israel to do any wrong. Hamas is a group of horrible terrorists, ( yes they are horrible terrorists) but Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is “genius” and “savvy” according to Trump.

            I’m just over here praying for peace.

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                I’m referring to the article you posted, and to the many republicans that clearly don’t feel that the defence of freedom and democracy, nor the existence of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people are important. If they did, they wouldn’t use aid as a bargaining chip in an attempt get extremist border policies passed.

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                  Nothing extreme about protecting your border. You seem to think we must ignore our border and pay for the defense of Ukraine.

                  The only obligation we have is to keep our country safe.