The mods there have decided to allow underage looking content, skirting close to CP. Unless we want such disgusting stuff on our feed, I think we should defederate from that instance.
The linked post is saying they will allow non-irl underage-looking content.
That is illegal in Canada.
163.1 (1) In this section, child pornography means
(a) a photographic, film, video or other visual representation, whether or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means,
(i) that shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity
(i) that shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity
I could say all humans look under 18 to me, and thus all porn is banned.
ultimately, loli does not refer to actual human beings. it does not refer to an age. loli characters can be undeniably adults and appear as such.
Surely, if a character is canonically an adult, appears as an adult, is unmistakably an adult, and are not based on a real person, then they can’t possibly fall under what you are saying, yes?
Yeah but that would be bullshit, and frankly your definition (which appears to be being skewed by a desire to look at sexual cartoons of children) would not need to be believed by anyone else.
“Canonically” also doesn’t matter because someone saying “actually this person who looks exactly like a five year old girl is a million years old” also doesn’t have to be believed by anyone else.
That is why the UK law is “appear to be” - specifically to avoid consumers of child pornography, real or drawn, pulling dumb stunts like that.
just out of interest @Otome-chan@kbin.social, in this pic (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeOCDVuVIAElq8s?format=jpg&name=large), how old do you think hayase looks? Keep in mind she is 42 (I guess that’s what that number means, either that or she is the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything. So what would be your stance of sexualised images of that character or a similar one? See, thet problem is, all your justifications come from within your lolita community. Not from outside the community, which is ultimately who you are judged by when this shit comes into thte public sphere… So you can go around in your little bubble thinking everything is ok because your are surrounded by other’s who justify it. Until it becomes public and you suddenly expect people to accept your justifications.
In the age of AI, it’s basically the same thing anyway. People can generate that shit now and it will look real. It’s not okay and it is illegal. It literally uses the word “depicted” which can refer to non-real stuff.
So… is all My Hero Academia porn illegal in Canada?
They started at 14, and are 16 now as far as I understand.
I never heard anyone call that stuff CP, although it technically would have to be, as long as the artist doesn’t somehow clarify “this is art from a future version, where they’re all 18, they just look the same because awesome genes” or whatever.
I’m not familiar with that so I cannot say. I’ve included a link to the law as it is written. If it fits the description, someone intended to be under the age of 18 displayed in a sexual fashion, then yes.
“being depicted as being under the age of eighteen years” is pretty explicitly saying ‘if this character is shown to be underage’, rather than ‘if this character might possibly be underage’
The linked post is saying they will allow non-irl underage-looking content.
That is illegal in Canada.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-163.1.html
that applies to people, not drawings.
I’d encourage you to read what I just posted because drawings would fall under “other visual representations”
it’s talking about depictions of actual people, not fictional characters.
If you’re going to be that level of pedantic then it’s clear you already have an idea in your head and don’t care to be informed.
this excludes loli/shota.
Looks like drawings of people to me
OK, more concretely then, sexualised drawings of people who are or appear to be under 18 are illegal in the UK.
This is an odd hill to die on if you’re not interested in looking at sexualised drawings of people who are or appear to be under 18.
I could say all humans look under 18 to me, and thus all porn is banned.
ultimately, loli does not refer to actual human beings. it does not refer to an age. loli characters can be undeniably adults and appear as such.
Surely, if a character is canonically an adult, appears as an adult, is unmistakably an adult, and are not based on a real person, then they can’t possibly fall under what you are saying, yes?
Yeah but that would be bullshit, and frankly your definition (which appears to be being skewed by a desire to look at sexual cartoons of children) would not need to be believed by anyone else.
“Canonically” also doesn’t matter because someone saying “actually this person who looks exactly like a five year old girl is a million years old” also doesn’t have to be believed by anyone else.
That is why the UK law is “appear to be” - specifically to avoid consumers of child pornography, real or drawn, pulling dumb stunts like that.
so there you have it. you’re essentially arguing full actual adults are “child porn”. fuck off with that bs.
just out of interest @Otome-chan@kbin.social, in this pic (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeOCDVuVIAElq8s?format=jpg&name=large), how old do you think hayase looks? Keep in mind she is 42 (I guess that’s what that number means, either that or she is the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything. So what would be your stance of sexualised images of that character or a similar one? See, thet problem is, all your justifications come from within your lolita community. Not from outside the community, which is ultimately who you are judged by when this shit comes into thte public sphere… So you can go around in your little bubble thinking everything is ok because your are surrounded by other’s who justify it. Until it becomes public and you suddenly expect people to accept your justifications.
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In the age of AI, it’s basically the same thing anyway. People can generate that shit now and it will look real. It’s not okay and it is illegal. It literally uses the word “depicted” which can refer to non-real stuff.
this has already been covered in courts. realistic looking imagery of children counts as cp. drawn anime characters do not.
So… is all My Hero Academia porn illegal in Canada?
They started at 14, and are 16 now as far as I understand.
I never heard anyone call that stuff CP, although it technically would have to be, as long as the artist doesn’t somehow clarify “this is art from a future version, where they’re all 18, they just look the same because awesome genes” or whatever.
I’m not familiar with that so I cannot say. I’ve included a link to the law as it is written. If it fits the description, someone intended to be under the age of 18 displayed in a sexual fashion, then yes.
“being depicted as being under the age of eighteen years” is pretty explicitly saying ‘if this character is shown to be underage’, rather than ‘if this character might possibly be underage’