Star Trek: Discovery S3E12 “There Is A Tide…”

I haven’t actually watched the new show or anything (no untagged spoilers in this thread, please), but this is the general vibe that I get from reading comments from people who have.

  • usernamefactory
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    22 hours ago

    No, you were listing things you didn’t like about the show. Stand by it.

    Anyway, you’re wrong. The EMH is in a position of authority at the academy, and Admiral Vance is in a position of authority over the academy. There’s also a man in charge of the war college. So what’s supposed to be unprecedented here? Just women existing in a military?

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      19 hours ago

      I also don’t like it, but wouldn’t bring it up if it made sense. The war college isn’t the focus of the show, I’m sure male characters are in positions of authority elsewhere in the federation, those also are not in the show. Admiral Vance is the exception, yes, but not running the academy, just there to smile at the captain’s quirky behavior.

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        16 hours ago

        Admiral Vance is the exception, yes, but not running the academy, just there to smile at the captain’s quirky behavior.

        What if I were to tell you that Ake is just there to dole out tough love to Caleb? He’s the show’s protagonist. Others may have their arcs, but they’ll ultimately bend around his story.

        But Vance is the one who gave Aka the job, and ran the negotiations in the second episode. He’s had a more prominent and varied role than any of the women under Ake’s command so far. And you’re still ignoring the EMH, Ake’s CMO and our heavily advertised legacy character. You’re not being very honest in your arguments so far.

        And you’re saying it doesn’t make sense for a woman to be in charge of something? Even if there’s a prominently featured man both above and below her in the chain of command? And men at the same relative level in other divisions? Do you just not accept Star Trek’s premise of an egalitarian future? I’m not seeing how my initial characterization of you was wrong.