• 9rakka@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    So instead of Steijn they now have a backstabbing head coach. Should work just fine…

  • R_Schuhart@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Steijn should shut up and sit down, he got all the time and opportunity to turn it around. It wouldn’t be surprising if one or two people did start to question him and dropped their support, that doesn’t automatically make it backstabbing.

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      1 year ago

      According to Steijn, Maduro had been constantly leaking information from inside the dressing room to ESPN. I’d call that backstabbing honestly

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        1 year ago

        Not sure what Steijn thinks Maduro was leaking to ESPN, they haven’t had any scoops at all since Maduro has been at Ajax

      • Just-Flamingo-410@alien.topB
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        This article now is clearly from Steijn. He blames the whole world and can’t accept that he lacks skills and insight to be trainer at a club like Ajax. It’s very telling that again other people are blamed, and Steijn is the victim. Who do you think called the papers?

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          1 year ago

          Steijn has been setting up excuses for his eventual failure pretty much since day 1.

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            1 year ago

            The thing is I do think there are some valid excuses like he didn’t get any of the players he asked for and the whole ‘build a squad while the competition is already on its way’ thing.

            Berghuis and Maduro ‘backstabbing’ probably came after those two concluded that he’s not good enough for ajax. I think that part is bs.

            But it wasn’t made easy for Steijn, that much is obvious as well.

            • SnooCupcakes9188@alien.topB
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              I agree it’s a legitimate excuse. It did sound like Steijn actually had a much better idea what the squad needed than that surf fraud.

              At the same time you can’t go and throw all those signings under the bus literally the first game things go wrong. How are you supposed to build a cohesive squad that way?

              He also chose to play those guys out of position immediately when he easily could have waited to integrate them if they weren’t ready. He definitely started making excuses for his dismissal from the start.

            • Sunstridr@alien.topB
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              The players that he wanted, baring Olij, would all have asked for above/significantly above the now salary cap that the board had placed on Mislintat.

              And it was known for a long time that we had to sell before bringing anyone in, with Mislintat only getting the go ahead after the first part of the Timber money being officially on the bank balance.

              So, sure it wasn’t easy for Steijn, but that was because the board was being difficult, not Mislintat.

              • MrGraveyards@alien.topB
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                Oh yes agreed it wasn’t just Mislintat. The board made a gigantic mistake with this half baked investing in the squad. We could’ve had Ziyech and Tagliafico, but we got forbs (nothing against him but he has some stuff to learn) Avila and Sosa. Etc.

                Really they could have simply bought less players that cost more instead of so many. Sutalo, vd boomen, Tagliafico, Ziyech, Dest, Maybe go for zerrouki because we needed a dm?

                The rest we didn’t really 100 percent need! This is also made evident by who’s playing now. It’s really a lot of players we already had and the new guys are playing only if the spot was really vacant like Sutalo and forbs or if someone is injured.

                So the board made a huge gigantic mistake there with the caps. A cheap buy can be an expensive buy!

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                  Eh, Ziyech has been constantly injured for Gala; and while Tagliafico would probably have been a solid addition, he is on more than both of Sosa and Avila combined afaik.

                  Don’t know about that, if I’m completely honest, yes there were some signings that felt like they were being bought to fill up the squad, and it would have been preferable to have done that with youth players, Ajax did lose a lot of players this summer.

                  Let’s not forget that Mikautadze has yet to be played as a striker, Mannsverk has only featured in one game due to Injury, the only time Akpom has started was at Right wing and Ramaj hasn’t played because Steijn was angry at not getting Olij.

                  While I do agree that sometimes a cheap buy can become an expensive one, the only ones that threaten to go that way, are players who Steijn hasn’t really given a chance.

        • Lannisterling@alien.topB
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          I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?

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            I think they’ve picked a side (the Dutch side) in a Steijn/Telegraaf vs Mislintat/new players battle they’ve cooked up.

            And we all know Sneijder and Van der Vaart were incredible players but aren’t nearly as gifted in the brain department.

          • Sunstridr@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Because they have good contacts with him, Sneijder and Vd Vaart were close enough to him that they were being actively asked to be one of his assistants.

            And Vd Meijde was literally getting most of his recent “scoops” from Steijn.

            • Lannisterling@alien.topB
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              Yes I understand. But I’m more wondering how it happened. Can’t really connect how they became friends. Maybe because they were in the ‘zandbak’ around the same time?

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                With Sneijder and Steijn, quite possible, and then Vd Vaart/Vd Meijde via Sneijder.

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            I’ve been wondering what’s the link there. I can imagine you’d back your former colleagues. But why are guys like Sneijder and Van der Vaart so determined to back Steijn?

            They are not, they are just free thinkers withs lots of experience that dont buy the emotional oversimplifications that the fans want. They all recognise Steijn had to go because he wasnt performing and that Steijn was dealt an impossible hand due to all the chaos, high expectations and lack of quality surrounding him.

            • Striking_Insurance_5@alien.topB
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              Van der Vaart and Sneijder did not think Steijn had to go at all, they were constantly saying that he’s a good manager but that the players are the problem. I have never heard either of them say a bad word about Steijn.

              I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder.

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                I’d rather look at what people with actual tactical knowledge have to say like Suley or Pieter Zwart instead of the populistic nonsense that comes out of Van der Vaart and Sneijder. They’re not free thinkers, they don’t really think at all.

                That’s called cherry picking, and is not a good habit to pick up.

        • SarcoZQ@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          and the fat and stupid ex-Ajax squad

          But specifically who though? There’s so many to choose from.

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    he would’ve got more time if he didn’t look completely out of his depth and had shown any sign of even the slightest improvement. honestly it looked like the more time goes by the more helpless he is. it was way past time to go.

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      1 year ago

      His best match was his first against Shakhtar Donetsk. We did have Kudus in that match though.

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    I thought Verweij’s sources inside Ajax were gone, or am I mistaken? If not, then this might just be shit stirring.

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      Mislintat didnt share info with him, Verweij and the Telegraaf did absolutely not like that, but since he is gone they have information again…crazy…

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      It’s Steijn. Mislintat stopped the sharing. The moment he was gone they suddenly started printing inside stories again that very clearly blamed him and served Steijn. Now they’re again feeding a story that benefits Steijn and kicks down everyone else at ajax. Steijn should shut the fuck up just for that, and there are plenty of other reasons why

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    Between this, not playing players Mislintat got out of spite and the absolute shite display on the pitch Steijn is really making an effort to look awful.

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      Is he not playing them out of spite? Or is it because they have looked absolutely dreadful every time they played?

      Like, can you tell me with a straight face that players like Akpom, Gaeei, Mikautadze and Ávila have looked like good players on the field for even 10 minutes? Which one of those isn’t playing out of spite? That Medic guy scored an absolute worldie, but looks beyond dreadful for the rest of open play. The Mannsverk guy played one match and it was one of the worst individual performances I’ve ever seen from an Ajax-player.