• a_lumberjack@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I’d say betting on your own team / football in general, when it’s a three year ban for doing so, is a clear sign off addiction.

    • Rc5tr0@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      This is what I don’t get about the addiction angle. As far as we know he wasn’t betting on Malaysian badminton at 2 am or ponies at some podunk track in the middle of Arkansas… he was betting on his own team. I’m not saying he isn’t an addict, but he very clearly had some level of control. To me it suggests he just thought he wouldn’t be caught, not that he couldn’t help himself.

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        11 months ago

        You don’t have to be a stereotypical degenerate head case to have genuine addiction. Especially that very very American example of an addict

        No one starts at the finish line

        These boys are in their early twenties and all they’ve done so far in life is play football. So they bet on what they knew. They don’t need the money one bit, it was all about the next dopamine hit

  • WackerBurghausen@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Wasn’t everyone puzzled then Milan sold Tonali that easily for a relatively low price given his class? Well there you go

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      11 months ago

      I’m a milan fan and I think it was a more than fair price for him. IMO 50 mil was realistic for him. He’s not top tier.

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      11 months ago

      Relatively low price? The transfer is a record for the most paid for an Italian player. Just because Premier League teams pay outrageous sums for players doesn’t mean it’s the same in Italy.

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    11 months ago

    It’s wild to now read a bunch of “He was never that good anyway” after all the drama/hype when the transfer got confirmed this summer.

    He may not be a world class player but he’s still a very good midfielder. Is it just because he didn’t live up to the insane hype he got when he was a teenager?

    • AnnieIWillKnow@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Pretty sure he was anointed as signing of the window after his debut vs Villa… feels a long time ago, now

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    11 months ago

    Unpopular opinion (maybe?): there is nothing unethical about betting your own team to win outright. Playing a spread or for a draw or any other prop bet you can influence is unethical, but betting on yourself to do your job doesn’t seem the same.

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    11 months ago

    I know it’s illegal and immoral because of that, but is there anything inherently immoral about betting that your club will WIN? I mean, if he bet on loosing, ties, yellow cards, minutes where the goal is scored, etc. But winning? That’s basically what he’s paid to do.

    • Slayer_Of_Anubis@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      If he has a higher financial incentive on a specific game, he may take a tactical red card that he otherwise wouldn’t have for one example

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      11 months ago

      I know the issues with managers betting on their teams to win is that they may use players up to get a win, that they otherwise wouldn’t have, at the cost of future games.

      But I’m struggling to see where a player might have an issue.

  • Bubzszs@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This reminds me of the Adrian Mutu situation with Chelsea. It’ll be interesting to see what Newcastle does with him/his contract.