• lemmyhavesome@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Biden COULD have just not said anything on this one. Instead he doubles down on his support for the genocidal maniac, Netanyahu, that is dragging him down in the polls.

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      He’s completely irrational on this one, which is pretty scary honestly. It feels like some Roman Emperor shit where everyone is just stuck looking on in horror as he lets the senate house burn down or whatever because he doesn’t want to admit it’s on fire.

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    I fully agree with the ICC, no one is above the law, especially when your killing innocent people for a stupid war. Remember, all wars start with lies. However, I will still choose the Democrats over the fucked up Government of Putin candidates, who lead us down a path of destruction.

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    This man does not want to win and he said many times he is a proud Zionist. There is no changing his mind.

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      People who think the term Zionist is somehow bad reminds me of Republicans who think the word Liberal is somehow bad.

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        People who don’t realize that both liberals and zionists have a lot of imperialism to be ashamed of remind me of the US education system.

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        “liberal” is significantly less specific in its implications, both in terms of modern day parlance and historical roots, than “zionist”

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          I’m sure you can do better than that. A Zionist means simply that that you believe there should be a Jewish state. The word liberal simply means you are willing to be open to ideas that are not your own. Neither are complicated. Neither are pejoratives.

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            Did you ignore the modern parlance part? A zionist is an Israeli nationalist. There’s a bit more to it than “Israel should exist.”

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              You can make up meanings all you want, but I’ll rely on a dictionary. I’m sure Republicans have many definitions for a liberal.

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                And when I say “nick fuentes is a nazi” do you understand what I’m saying, or do you point out that he’s not actually a member of the NSDAP?

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                  I’m sorry if the need for common definition offends you. Yet, still the use of these terms by Republicans and Palestinian protestors seems the same to me, sorry.

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                doubling down on the stance of not understanding linguistics isn’t the play you seem to think it is

                the wikipedia article on zionism is several thousand words long, and you seem to think it’s possible to accurately boil that down to a one or two sentence dictionary entry

                I’m sure Republicans have many definitions for a liberal.

                it’s more that they don’t have a definition at all

                they use it similarly to “woke”, in that its a nebulous word that takes on any given meaning that they want given the context

                if you tried to distill its myriad of uses into an actual definition you’d get something like “person i disagree with to the point of dislike”, at which point the dumb part becomes making an assertion as utterly vacuous as “i don’t like people i don’t like”

                it’s completely dissimilar

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                  I’m boiling it down because this isn’t the kind of platform to express a thousand words. I use the dictionary, as you should. You seem to make a word which it is not. That may work in your world and it may work in the Republican world, but that doesn’t mean people with a common language have to accept it. Both you and Republicans are trying demean others using language which is not applicable.

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            There shouldn’t be a Jewish state though. It’s a different thing. I don’t think there should be a Christian state or a Muslim state either. Or a Mormon state or a Scientologist state.

            There were Jews living in Palestine before it was carved up and given to the zionists. Why did it need to be turned into a Jewish state to the exclusion of people who have always lived there? At one point they were planning to carve up Argentina and South america. Which still would have been wrong. Though perhaps slightly less insane than what they did.

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              Since the beginning, groups of people with the same religious values have grouped together to form communities and then nations. There should no exception here.

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                Yeah. There should. It’s always been a bad idea. And historically part of the reason they were persecuted. Not that it justified it. Nor does it justify them doing it in return.

                So you’re saying we should stop resisting and just give the fascists the US as a Christian homeland? Help me understand.

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                  You do understand that Isreal is 40% Muslim, just as in the US only 68% identify as Christian. Just because a country starts in a certain way doesn’t mean they don’t evolve. But, sometimes they don’t for a time, especially Theocracies.

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    Sadly I view this as a “net zero” situation. Trump would also abandon Palestine along with Ukraine and Taiwan, so in this instance it doesn’t matter who you end up voting for, but getting Trump has many, many more negatives. So I hope people aren’t using this as their hill to die on for their vote otherwise it puts us in a much worse situation.

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    You know who is outrageous right now?

    That’s you Biden.

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      A warrant for Netanyahu would be a good idea even if there were some other people at large that we should also be arresting.

      But also, in this case Putin already has an ICC warrant. It’s caused some issues in the past because e.g. he couldn’t attend a diplomatic meeting in South Africa and there was some question about, if he just shows up anyway, are they really going to arrest him as they’re required to do, and then it’ll be a real shit storm.

      From what I remember, he blinked and decided not to show up.

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    The only outrageous thing is that Biden’s name isn’t on the list, too