• Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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      I mean yeah isn’t that kind of the point? You have some uncompromising principles, say someone asks you to cast them aside? It’s not gonna be easy to do so most people choose the second best option and live with the cognitive dissonance. Either that or prefer to do as you say. Far as I understand United States and many other countries were founded because of that.

      Another example. Look at my country. Hailed through years as the socialist paradise. Same governing leftists sent it to shit. Now what people do? Easy, engage in simple denial, anger and cognitive dissonance about it. “It couldnt have been real socialism”, “it’s not as bad as they say in the news”, “news must be fake”, “clearly it’s someone else’s fault it went to shit”, “oh oh maybe it was corruption” and so on and so forth.

      It’s not as weird of an attitude and it is kind of part of humanity at this point.

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        Look at my country. Hailed through years as the socialist paradise. Same governing leftists sent it to shit.

        Tells me that it probably was corruption. You got a bad group of leaders, and what had been good went sour. Unfortunately, that’s the way shit goes; bad leaders can wreck a great thing.

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          I mean tbf, the number of socialist countries that even tried to actually be a little bit socialist can be counted on one hand. It may not have been a great place to begin with.

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            I think that’s a problem, yeah. The people that are ideologues aren’t the people that tend to lead battles and win revolutions, and the people that win revolutions don’t tend to be ideologues that willingly give up power.

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      Almost like when a platform is developed by an open an actual communist and all the people jumping reddit’s ship are leftism braindeaders, the hivemind keeps rolling

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      Making fun of rural/suburban cavemen who have forgotten or decided not to know how to live in society is universal humor for anyone that isn’t choking on their own drool as they rush to vote against themselves in order to “own” some other group.

      The alternative is to try to explain to these tryhard intellectuals why safe and healthy communities are a good thing but that’s just a waste of everyone’s time.

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        You sound like the exact type of tryhard intellectual you seemed concerned with but hey, internal biases are a hell of a drug

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          The amusement comes from the special boy alpha males who don’t need no gubmint telling me that “socialism” will ruin America while I’m surrounded by “socialism” here in Italy with safe walkable communities not full of guns, frequent transit and available health care.

          American conservatives and their fantasies are longer my problem though so it’s pretty satisfying to watch the intellectuals work so very hard to make sure the streets are full of homeless people, guns and the mentally ill who can’t afford healthcare. Keep telling the rest of the world how it’s impossible to do the things they’ve had for decades 🙄🤣

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            Bro right now, Italians have stagnant wages since the 80s, terrible real estate, no minimum wages and increasing costs of living and necessities. For young people, it is even worse, so many young Italians are leaving the country, a bleeding of fresh blood that is not going to be replaced in any way. Studies have shown Italy is going towards a demographic crisis because young people cannot afford to raise a family, so they either leave or stay with very low wages.

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              Not sure what any of that has to do with my post…?

              Italy is still much safer, cleaner and friendlier than anywhere I saw in 8 years of living in DC, despite all the problems you just mentioned. Seems like strong social safety nets (sOcIaLiSm in the American dialect) are keeping people who are struggling from becoming desperate enough to turn to crime.