• Upbeat_Farm_5442@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Hope this happens to all these Arab pumping money leagues and fraud oil clubs. Never seen a more unclass bunch of fans and promoters

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    11 months ago

    I’ve looked at the history of Chinese football and the regularity in which clubs just go poof is perplexing to me from a country where there would be a huge outcry if that occurred to any club.

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      11 months ago

      I’m a proponent of the MLS’s guardrails keeping spending under control. I’m curious as to how exactly Inter Miami are able to sustainably bring in so many big players though. Not a hater, I’m just genuinely curious. I totally get MLS and Apple waging the farm to bring in Messi. But add in Busquets, Alba and rumors of more former Barca players, just curious at what point to other owners start asking questions.

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      11 months ago

      “growing steadily” we’re just a real estate laundering league. The majority of the value of our teams is in their stadiums.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah. Most Chinese clubs don’t own stadiums, combining with the stingy fans, Chinese clubs are worth less money.

  • Danimber@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    What was the strategy of Chinese football?

    Buy clubs in Europe -> send Chinese youth players to these clubs -> inject money into domestic clubs with star players -> expose domestic players to a higher level of play

    Was this the strategy?

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      11 months ago

      There is no long-term strategy, politicians are appointed to be the president of Chinese FA, each person has a few years time and different ideas.

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      11 months ago

      Something like that, but then they realised it takes many decades for grassroots investment to take effect at the professional level, and by then all they’d have achieved is making foreigners stupidly rich with no guarantees that Chinese born players will ever be as good. It’s better to just invest in grassroots football and wait, it’ll be a lot cheaper, more rewarding, and politically much more popular.

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      11 months ago

      Isn’t Japan successfully doing this? At least for the first two steps. Of course they have much better players than China.

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        11 months ago

        Japan’s success is entirely different.

        Japan’s development of football started way earlier. Their top flight J-League was started in 1992 compare to the CSL started in 2004.

        Japan also has a great system to develop new sport talents by having annual school tournaments. From prefecture level to national level, and it starts in middle school.

        Japan also has anime which inspired many kids to play sports. Like Captain Tsubasa, which inspired many kids world wide.

        Alongside that, corruption is a huge problem in China which hindered the chance of proper development too. Pooh wants to development football in China and the only way to do it is to throw a large sum of money into different provinces and municipals to have the infrastructure to play. The more chance that the kids get to play, the higher chance to find someone good. However those money get skimmed by multiple layers of officials, coaches and so on. The guy who was hired as a coach at municipal level, might just be the brother or cousin of the local official, who has zero sport experience, but got the job because of nepotism.

        That’s pretty much the difference between China’s football development vs Japan’s football development.

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    11 months ago

    I hope this makes sense but it really goes to show how quickly clubs can run themselves into the ground. Chinese teams had little to no financial backing from sponsors, just owners or the CCP themselves and did little to develop themselves as big name players sought salaries even billionaires would shy from. I was excited for a new region to grow and potentially disrupt the upper echelons of the football pyramid but China went about it so poorly that it has backfired so bad, that football probably won’t ever recover there as investors have seen so many clubs fail. But hey, maybe their youth prospects over the next 15 years may be a little better

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      11 months ago

      Ironically, these teams blowing up is probably better for the chinese national team in the next decade.

    • mikelee30@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      In China footballers are laughingstocks, clubs come and go, most Chinese people don’t care.