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  • You’re equating the council bigwigs fiddling with finances for technicality reasons with people who are only trying to advocate for fair financial compensation

    No, you’ve misunderstood completely what I’m saying and are making assumptions. Are you able to point to where I am equating the two sides like you claim?

    Would it help you if I reiterated the following:

    • The council’s position is not automatically in the right simply because they’re the council.
    • The union’s position is not automatically in the right simply because they’re the unions.
    • The people of Birmingham are living a sanitary and health nightmare right now.
    • With the deadlock from both sides nobody is winning or happy.

    So is Rayner’s stance unreasonable given this? And it’s all right if the answer is no but I’d like to understand why. That’s my position. Not something you’ve dreamt up.




  • I don’t disagree that austerity hasn’t been extremely difficult for people. However how does that explain other cities not facing the same issues Birmingham is facing? Manchester doesn’t have the same waste problem. Newcastle doesn’t have the same problem. Neither does Liverpool. Neither does Edinburgh. Neither does Cardiff. Have these places not suffered austerity? What is unique about Birmingham that it can’t clean it’s streets? And is Rayner not right in pointing out that, even if there are differences regionally, it can’t be this difficult to come to an agreement to keep your city clean.



  • I’m saying is her position wrong? Equally I could say the same about the striking bin workers - are they wrong to be striking? Just because they’re part of a union doesn’t make their position automatically correct. Same goes for Rayner. Just because she’s part of the government doesn’t make her position automatically correct.

    All I know is that nobody is winning and neither is the city of Birmingham or it’s people. It was honestly a disgrace.