So I’ve finished rereading the first one. Your right! It’s head is “generic human”. The joints for arms and legs are a mix of organic and nonorganic, but to pass, it needs a long shirt and trousers. Less human in looks than in the TV series, who we see in the nude to make it clear he is not a sex bot.

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In the second book: “I don’t know if there are any augmented human with enough implants to resemble a SecUnit. It seams unlikely a human would want that many implants, or would survive whatever catastrophic injury might make them necessary.”

So yes, the TV series has the body wrong even head is acceptable.

So we dont buy US military kit. It’s got kill switches and hard to keep running without their support. It’s increasing looking like they aren’t aligned with the free world.

The consumer can only really be expected to do so much. Fail of governments / regulators can’t really be fixed by consumer action. Realistically, you can’t get many to understand and care. We need to pressure governments to do their job. Now the problem isn’t academic. It’s national security and the tax money and control lost to American big tech is now a political problem. Be a lot easier if they hadn’t been a sleep on the job and ignoring digital rights and competition experts, but we are where we are.

Sounds like more reason to get off Microsoft/Apple/Google/Meta/Amazon/etc

It was never clever to allow such monopolies, but now it just geopolitically dangerous.

Canada should be trying to move as much to open source as it can, as fast as it can.

If they use means more funding to foundations & projects, this helps everyone. You can see a feedback loop were more and more things hit critical mass. This is a nightmare scenario for the big closed source houses.

Can’t talk of heatpumbs, but EVs are great. Been two years being an all EV family. I still don’t see enough curb side opposition for people without drives. Home charging x10 cheaper than dino juice, but public chargers (80p per kWh), are basically the same cost. So without home charging, there is little to no cost saving. Which is not only unfair, but will slow EV adoption.

The series is the next book on my list, and I flew from them first time. Looking forwards to rereading (I never normally reread). :-)

We remember/interpret it slightly differently. I’ll be rereading soon. See what I second time round. 😀

But the whole point of the modifications was so it could pass as human. Which means beforehand, it was a struggle to.

Poor researched articles is normal. Real journalism is rare. You said Munich was a failure and that really isn’t true if MS had to work so hard to squash it.

Agreed. I hope they pull it back. It’s clearly where anyone would prefer to live!

After ART’s modifications. Other secunits would know from it’s gate and general movement, etc.

I remember it being a clear thing, but I’ll be rereading soon. It’s the book after the next one.

It was only after ART’s modifications that Murderbot was able to pass for a heavily augmented human. That was the point of them.

I hope they show the Preservation more seriously later. It was all vague at the start in the books. Though I will be rereading!

I’m not sure Munich can be regarded as a failure. MS corrupted the test case in every way they could. They couldn’t afford it to be seen as successful.

https://itsfoss.com/munich-linux-failure/

Now it’s not just cost but American can be seen as a reliable partner. Let anyone an American corporation.

That is how they want everyone to feel so there isn’t much fight back. However, I think if there was, and the gloves came off, it may also split Republicans and even Trumpers.

I think commercially, they needed a known actor and who can not only look genderless, but sound it? It is easier in books.

I do see what your saying, it is just the books have a secunit clearly not looking like any gender. They have skimmed over Muderbot’s disgust of gender and sex, but in the books it is constant theme. It’s visceral.

To have them be genderless is only half way, as secunits, in the books, also look genderless (and not human).

Skarsgård, for a dude, is doing as good a job as he can. Not many known actors could visually do what I’d have preferred, and also can do a ungendered voice. (Any?). I know it’s easier to do it books and realistically they needed a well known actor to pull people to the show.

It’s just…just… That’s not my Murderbot!

It’s an interesting point, and I agree with it politically, but in the books it’s made clear secunits look androgynous and non-human.

Some change between media change is always going to happen. I think Skarsgård is doing as good a job as can be done with his face. I’m making peace with it. Maybe the bigger problem is the dismissiveness of the portrayal of Preservation Alliance society. But we did live in the Corporate Rim!

Not quite as I saw them, but I certainly saw it clearly not human. A composite of plastic, metal and flesh. Comfortable with the label it.

Though the counter to that, I’m sure the books mentions sexbots basically being the same platform as secunits, only with a gender and without built in weapons. With a combatunit being the same again, but with even more weapons (including cyber). Which does say maybe Martha Wells had the platform, without armour, as maybe more fleshly than we are thinking.

The TV series is good, but it’s not as I saw in my head. Other than “Sanctuary Moon”, which nails it.

I am surprised there hasn’t been real unset by fans by giving Murderbot gender. They could have at least picked someone who didn’t look binary. But Skarsgård has got the right character if not the right face.