Whats the point of writing prn, f@ck, sht or anything like that instead of the actual words? You can still read them, its not like they are gone if you replace a letter or two.

  • @bionicjoey
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    On Lemmy, there’s no good reason. But they may be carrying over habits from other sites where there is harsh censorship of non-advertiser-friendly language

          • @PerogiBoi
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            Because swearing is a natural part of the human experience and most level headed people don’t feel the need to suppress human expression.

            Swearing serves an important biological need to express emotion and communicate. Psychologically, we swear to express strong emotions and when people swear, they are inherently viewed as more trustworthy or honest. Swearing helps people bond.

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                I think there’s some miscommunication here. You’re the only person in this thread that brought up slurs. Everyone else is talking about swear words which is a different thing. I don’t think anyone here is saying slurs aren’t bad. What people are saying is it should be ok to use swear words, which you just demonstrated with your comment.

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                  I’m not confused, misogo is so rampant that people don’t even consider them to be slurs, kind of like what used to happen to ableist slurs.

                  I’m willing to bet a good amount of people in this comment section used to use ableist slurs before they were told not to, because they treat slurs as “words I’m not allowed to say” rather than genuinely not wanting to hurt the groups that said slurs are targeting.

          • @[email protected]
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            “Bitch” is not a slur. It is a swear. Swears are fine, slurs are not. They are not equivelant, and shouldn’t be treated as such.

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              I hate ml mods as much as the next guy, but also I would consider “bitch” to be kinda misogynistic in certain context.

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                The same can be said of any gendered term. That’s honestly a comment on the context more than the word.

                If you say the word bitch is as offensive as the f slur, t slur or n word, then you’re saying those slurs are as harmless as the word bitch. If you believe that, I am offended by you. Do not put them in the same group.

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                see the problem I have here is by banning a word that is used as a slur maybe once every 1000 times you remove the 999 times it was not used as a slur, thereby making the situation worse rather than better. Banning words does fuck all to promote a healthier culture, all it does is make the vultures migrate to the next word they load up with negative connotations

          • @HikingVet
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            Holy fucking hell. What kind of pearl clutching Victorian era bullshit is that?

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              “Don’t do the thing” “I’m going to do the thing you just told me not to do”

              Rape culture.

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                Rape culture

                Because someone said bitch and doesn’t follow your orders?

                Lol.

                But you’re also probably trolling

              • @[email protected]
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                No.

                But thank you for establishing the fact you lack the cognitive capacity to engage this thread in good faith.

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          Fun fact 1: if you do get banned or have your comments removed you’ll only know if you check the modlogs. And likely only if you check the modlogs of the instance that took action against you as the modlogs don’t fully sync between each other.

          Fun fact 2: you have been in the past, here’s a link to the mod actions against you on .ml

          Fun fact 3: and so have I, I only just recently finished a 2 week ban over here on .ml for calling that kind of stuff out on here.

          Edit: That didn’t take long @[email protected] looks like you got banned for your comment.

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            Oooh ooh oh i’m sooo triggered right now 😒

            You know what it’s called when you do something someone has clearly stated they don’t like? It’s called rape culture, but that’s not a conversation any of you crackers are ready to have yet. You all still need to have basic decency explained to you in a youtube essay.

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              Let’s get something straight right here, rape culture is not simply doing something that someone else has expressed a distaste for. Going into a public forum that you do not own or have control over, asking/telling the people there to act a certain way, and them responding by ignoring that request is not rape culture.

              If it was a more private situation, like a group chat among friends, or even a public forum but an individual discussion between a small group of 2-3 people talking directly to each other, respect should be given to requests. If you were having a back and forth conversation with someone, and asked them not to swear while talking with you, they should respect that. But coming into public forum and demanding everyone else adhere to your rules, then spouting “rape culture” if they don’t follow along, is only cheapening the phrase “rape culture” and removing meaning from it.

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                That rhetoric is the same as when neo-nazis go around saying “lets not cheapen nazi by calling everyone we disagree with nazi”

                Not a good look.

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                  No words should be cheapened. None of them. Not Nazi, not Fascist, not woke, and not anything else.

                  They all have meanings for a reason. Better we all learn them and use em correctly instead of throwing the word at something irrelevant just because we don’t it as if we were children.

  • Bonehead
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    Let’s just get this out of the way…

    Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits. And sometimes fart turd twat bitch.

    Whatever is censored is being filtered by your instance.

  • @[email protected]
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    Comes from the social media platforms that auto remove stories that contain certain words. Tiktok, Instagram, etc.

      • @[email protected]
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        My mistake, I meant .ml, accidentally conflated the two.

        I do come across a lot of removed while browsing on my .world account when the blahaj is being iffy, not sure what that is from.

        • @[email protected]
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          I think for posters on .ml, the words are actually removed and not just hidden from them. So that’s why you see it from other instances on their posts too.

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      A filter? Let me test it right now…

      Fuck.

      Unless this is a shadowban type filter, it seems to not be there…

      • Gormadt
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        Fun fact: you won’t get told when your stuff is removed or if you get banned. You have to check the modlogs.

        This is Lemmy wide.

        And looks like it’s still up as of 2 hours after you posted

        Edit: Spelling

        Edit 2: Spleling

      • @[email protected]
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        Did it work? How about bitch? That one came up often when searching to see where I fucked up with my info.

      • @[email protected]
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        I think it’s not a swear filter, but more like a ‘potentially discriminatory terms’ filter.

        • @[email protected]
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          I see. I don’t mind filters that remove racist or homo/transintolerant slurs, that’s keeping a community safer and inclusive rather than enforcement of politeness.

    • @[email protected]
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      Wow I didn’t know that. Good thing I switched to a different instance (although it was mostly due to poor performance on lemmy.ml at the time).

  • squiblet
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    I’ve seen that for words that are considered to be ‘triggers’, as if saying ‘r@pe’ is somehow different at all than just using the normal vowel.

    • @[email protected]
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      That behavior drives me up the fucking wall, because by munging the word they make it less likely to be caught by user-invoked blocklists. Meaning they’re forcing people to be triggered after taking steps to avoid such.

      Don’t fucking do that shit.

    • Coco
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      A lot of it comes from Tiktok culture. YouTube has started doing it too.

      Videos that say “kill”, “rape”, “died”, etc are all deprioritized by the algorithm if not demonetized entirely.

      People have been editing subtitles to avoid these words, and the behavior spread.

    • @kent_eh
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      I suspect it’s largely become a habit from people being on platforms that have automatic blocked word filters.

  • @[email protected]
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    I have been watching Rick and Morty lately and every now and then I have to change the site to find a version of the episode I’m watching where swear words aren’t censored. Like, it’s a show made for adults full of violent and sexual themes, so I think that most viewers have heard the word “fuck” before. I hate it so much when people censor “bad words”, even though nothing prevents them from saying them.

    • @[email protected]
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      There’s a bar in my area that has the TouchTunes jukebox set up to be censored. I’m an adult at a fucking bar and I can’t listen to something with a swear word, ha ha.

      • @[email protected]
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        One time I was at a MicroCenter (kind of like Best buy) and Nine Inch Nails’ “Closer” came on the store music. I was like who the fuck plays a radio edit of this song what’s the point?

        It was not a radio edit. We all heard “wanna fuck you like an animal” in all its original glory. A+ would buy wireless keyboard from there again.

      • @[email protected]
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        God I worked at a bar that played NWA but with the naughty words bleeped out. It’s a fucking bar! First of many problems with that place.

    • @[email protected]
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      One show where removing the censor was a detriment: Metalocalypse. They used a guitar sound on our first few seasons, and replacing that with the actual a wear words was just… less funny? I’ve never felt that way about a show before, or since.

  • @[email protected]
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    One possible reason is that some words on controversial subjects can attract mobs of posters with an agenda. They search for keywords to find threads to flood with their arguments.

    So posters would get in the habit of saying something like “I love p1n3apple on p*zza” to avoid the wrath of pizza purists (made-up example, but substitute with anything more controversial).

    • @[email protected]
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      This was a big problem during the 2016 election on reddit. There were armies of idiots who searched for comments containing ‘Trump’ and would brigade the shit out of it. But if you changed the ‘p’ to a ‘р’ (the Cyclic character) or changed the ‘u’ to a ‘ս’ (the Armenian character) miraculously you wouldn’t be brigaded.

  • Rentlar
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    Generally I don’t care about words like bitch, fuck, shit, but there are certain servers and communities where cusses or other words are used harmfully towards groups that the community or server is inteded to be a supportive place for, and when they come up in discussion, even just as examples as what was said to them are rightfully censored or have a trigger warning placed in front.

    Community mods and server operators can get overboard with this but they get that privilege because they do the work to moderate it anyway.