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    Fun fact, did you know that google deliberately makes their products run worse on browsers like Firefox so users will think the browsers are slow? Please support Firefox, it’s the only real browser not based on Googles technology (like Brave is), and it’s actively fighting Google’s monopoly on web browsing.

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    Firefox for life! Well as long as they don’t go evil or bankrupt. I am not surprised at all though.

    1. Kneecap plugin performance especially for AdBlock plugins claiming it’s for security.
    2. Notify users that those plugins are slowing down Chrome.
    3. ???
    4. Profit… or people hopefully switch
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      I mean, they’ve already started cutting some features I have used… So I’ve got Firefox and Pale Moon on my PC to cover the loss of ftp support. And since some pages don’t work in Firefox in either instance of engine, I have to have Chrome installed…

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        It genuinely sucks that some websites don’t bother to support Firefox! When you encounter one, you might want to complain to the devs and open a webcompat issue.

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          the proper channels rarely work. apply as an unpaid intern, fix it. quit. always works.

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        I have already encountered some websites which didn’t work with Chrome very well, but did with Firefox. They mentioned it’s because of how Chrome now handles audio, the audio doesn’t start.

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        Maintaining a browser is an insane amount of work. Without Mozilla working on Firefox, LibreWolf will stagnate and become unusable.

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      Their recent advertising of their VPN has set some worrisome trends; here’s to hope they stop that nonsense before we have to move to a fork.

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        I mean, it’s not great, but it’s also not the worst. You can also disable it. Chrome gets money by collecting your data to use for advertising purposes. Firefox doesn’t do that, so I don’t see much harm in them advertising some of their products a couple times a year. Even wikipedia advertises their own donation period, trying to encourage users to donate.

        If it were a persistent banner, that would be different. But a one time closable window, that can also be disabled, is really not that terrible. Companies need money, after all.

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        It’s a terrible mobile browser…

        I honestly gave it a go, and I liked that I could run ad blocking, but the constant crashing and poor website rendering shoved me back to chrome on mobile a couple weeks ago. I’d rather deal with ads and have the browser be stable apparently.

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          I use it on mobile just for uBlock. As far as I know it’s the only mobile browser that supports extensions. If you use their nightly version it can use any extension that you can get on desktop. The base version only supports a few extension, but uBlock is one of them.

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          What’s not working? Most broken websites are fixed by having it flag itself as chrome mobile, which is telling that your falling for what Google wants right now. And what crashes are you getting? I get one no more than once a week if that and I have over 100 tabs open

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            Wait, you guys get crashes on Firefox Mobile? Like legit, I was using Firefox for months, in fact, nearly a year, with over 100 tabs opened constantly (it showed up as an Infinity sign, lol) and I don’t remember ever having Firefox crash on me. That’s unusual.

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            I didn’t have a list of every website that screwed up, but when one did I’d have to close the tab and reopen and it’d work, which sucks when you are actually navigating the Internet.

            It wasn’t that the stuff wouldn’t load on Firefox it’s that it would freeze and need to be dumped and retried. This happened very frequently.

            Actual crashes were almost daily for me (with maybe 5 open tabs running on a Samsung flip 4, so pretty decent hardware)

            Which sucks because I’d like Firefox to work on mobile, setting aside privacy and ads, the UI is much better in general. But it’s bad at being a browser.

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      Wish Firefox goes with Vivaldi direction. I can’t try another browser since I 'm so addicted to gestures. Plus a lot more customization is available.

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          For starters, Teams doesn’t work in Firefox. And good luck convincing your company (or its clients) to stop using Teams. And the native teams client on Linux is even worse than using it in the browser.

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          Our website works best with Chrome so they want us to use Chrome. Blame the people we outsource to in India, I guess.

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            Use Vivaldi then. It’s Chromium based, but they care about privacy and there’s tons of ways to configure it

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        On desktop the market share is somewhat higher.

        I switched back to Firefox ever since the Quantum release and have been loving it.

        I wish Mozilla would spend their resources on the browser instead of wasting time and money on so many other useless projects.

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    Such a baseless statement. Ad blockers actually improve performance by removing random junk videos, and images from running on the site.

    I’m so glad to have switched to Firefox.

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      Yes, but if I remember correctly, the UBlock Origin devs said that the current restrictions in Chrome prevent some of the performance improvements seen in FFx because the filtering is done after the element is downloaded. So, it still has to transfer, but isn’t rendered or executed. I could be mistaken, though.

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    You should switch from chrome to firefox. Less tracking built in to the browser. Also chrome is planning to deprecate manifest V2 which will break all adblockers.

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      Unless you use a browser that uses its own ad and tracker blocking. I get fewer ads on Vivaldi without adblocking then I get on Firefox with ublock origin.

      Runs about half the resources that Firefox takes up too.

      Ad block on chromium was supposed to break in January when manifest v3 came around and it doesn’t seem like much has changed on browsers that were prepared for it like Brave and V.

      Edge and Chrome are fucked, but who cares about them anyways.

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        I used vivaldi for a period, but it’s still Chromium. I’m trying to support the only non-chromium option out there. The more users Firefox has, the better. Chrome and Chromium are so dominant, it’s seriously problematic.

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        Unless you were running Firefx with outdated uBO filters, I doubt that. Vivaldi is a memory hog for me.

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        Adguard is russian spyware. Also it wouldn’t matter if they have a manifest v2 compliant addon as manifest v2 is going away in less than a year. Manifest V3 breaks adblockers.

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            Yes, they were developed in Russia and moved to Cyprus a few years later. Their software also installs a root certificate so that’s fun. Here is a primer on why that’s a bad thing. You should use ublock origin if you care about adblocking and privacy.

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      And some sites are trying to load them again, and again, and again, so the poor plugin has no choice than to go hard on resources.

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    If you wanna keep using adblocks you should start moving away from Chrome/Chromium-based browsers as soon as possible!!

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      That’s what they said in January too and Vivaldi is still working just fine at blocking ads with internal ad blocking. I don’t even have an ad blocker extension installed.

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        They pushed the deadline to January 2024, that’s when Chromium is officially dropping support for MV2. As of now, new MV2 extensions can’t be uploaded to the store. Built-in adblockers won’t be affected by that change because they’re not extensions.

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      Not necessarily chromium ones. I get that Chrome has a monopoly over all browsers, but brave offers great privacy control even though it’s a chromium based browser.

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        It’s not just about privacy, at least for me. Staying away form the Chromium monopoly is the biggest point.

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        Chrome plating (less commonly chromium plating) is a technique of electroplating a thin layer of chromium onto a metal object. A chrome plated part is called chrome, or is said to have been chromed.

        Chromium is a chemical element with the symbol Cr and atomic number 24. It is the first element in group 6. It is a steely-grey, lustrous, hard, and brittle transition metal.

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        Firefox is actually a red panda. Which frankly are even cooler than foxes.

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          https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/988854

          philipp Moderator

          the name “firefox” comes from the red panda & the icon apparently from a fox, so you’re both right in a way. a little bit of ambiguity and people discussing the brand of the browser seems to be quite a likeable thing to maintain ;-)

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        If you didn’t know, firefox has ‘containers’ where you can open a tab in, for example, a ‘work’ container and it won’t carry the cookies over. Lets you log into multiple accounts on 1 browser (like personal email & work email etc).

        Doesn’t have seperate history though.

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          I learned about containers less than year ago and kicked myself for not learning about them sooner. Containers in Firefox truly are a godsend.

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          Actually there’s one better - if you go to about:profiles in the URL bar you can make a new profile that is COMPLETELY separate, including history. Only annoying thing is that you have to go there every time you want to open a window in a profile other than the default

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      I use Waterfox because Firefox actually does steal my data but Waterfox doesn’t.

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          Firefox has telementary on by default which you can easily disable in settings.
          And imo waterfox is worse than Librewolf as it was sold to system1, a advertisment company

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          Firefox “steals” the kind of data that tells them how people actually use the product. And they only do that if you don’t turn it off.

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      You’re lying to yourself if you think Mozzarella Foxfire doesn’t have telemetry. I’d recommend Waterfox if you’re wanting no telemetry