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THE TWO MOST STOLEN ITEMS IN THE WORLD: a pen labeled Surplus Value of Workers Labor, and a lighter labeled Indigenous Land

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Cool so they get their land back then you get to just continue on living except now you don’t have to pay rent because they abolished property ownership. No genocides, no mass displacements. Yeah, I know. It really is that easy. Sounds like a cool plan, we should do that.

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      1 year ago

      So I get to continue living on someone else’s land? I really don’t feel good about that. And who is the ‘they’ here? Only pure blood line indigenous people, but not mixed race indigenous people? I sincerely do not understand what you’re trying to say here.

      I definitely support ending property ownership and am a Marxist. But I still don’t know where the mixed race people like myself are supposed to go. And I literally want to go, just trying to figure out where.

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        1 year ago

        I really don’t feel good about that.

        Good thing this isn’t about you, then.

        If you want to feel less bad about it why don’t you take a look at this map and learn the language where you live. It won’t be on the final exam it’s just a little fun exercise to keep your mind occupied.

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          1 year ago

          The area I live in is disputed between 3 different First Nations, one of which I am a part of…

          I think you’re having trouble picturing me as a minority-dominant mixed race individual because you are white yourself?

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            1 year ago

            If that’s the case why the hell do you care?? You have nothing to lose by opposing it.

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              Because it isn’t something that can be meaningfully implemented. Not to mention what if it all goes to a First Nation I disagree with having control of it? Like I said, it’s contested between three indigenous groups.

              There also the issue, that I keep bringing up, of me being mixed race. I don’t see how we can only look at the 25% of my genetic heritage while ignoring the other 75%. The world is a lot more complicated than a binary worldview of ‘idigenous or not’.

              You, and others blindly yelling ‘land back’ without any specifics are not being realistic at all and just want to feel better about your own position without actually taking any meaningful specific actions.

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                1 year ago

                You’re hopeless. We’re going with my original plan. Let everyone know when you’re ready to come to the table.

                That might seem harsh but the way things are going, that’s what’s going to end up happening, so shape up while you still can.

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                  I am hopeless when it comes to accepting your white savior view of things, yes. And which original plan? The one in support of murdering all mixed race people? Also which table? I literally don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

                  If you can’t even justify your position, like…at all. Doesn’t that sort of make you consider rethinking your position at least a little bit?

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                    1 year ago

                    You’ve already made it clear that you support genocide, so go die. The rest of the world will go on without you just fine.

                    I’m not going to waste my time with someone whose kill-or-be-killed world view is going to result in both of us dead.