• Veraxus@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Right-wingers are masters of both escalation and creating long-term, multi-generational consequences.

    What is so hard to understand about “murder bad, apartheid bad”?

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    Coming from a guy who had to stomach literally Nazi’s waving red flags protesting to kill everyone who isn’t their color.

    While I would certainly disagree with anyone who agrees with Hamas’ use of tactics.

    I find silencing them to be completely undemocratic. Obviously there are exceptions, but I think the general public has got a handle on this.

    And it is healthy to talk about these kinds of things. Especially as a society, sometimes it is good to rehash these arguments to throw away what is outdated, and bring in new perspectives.

    But just note: once the boomer generation is gone, these people who support Israel. And all those rules that have been shifted off to others are going to come back home to roost.

    Are you sure that is what you want? Because I can be patient.

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      genx is the most trumpy of all the generations and millennials are now in their early 40’s; unless you’re genz or younger, i wouldn’t wait.

      also living long enough to watch biden go from dunking on gays to get easy political points to being hailed as the most pro-gay president ever has convinced me that things change in ways that don’t make sense so i now expect that, as wealth transfers from boomers to their younger relatives, we’ll see fascist sentiments resurge due to newly wealthy people feeling like they need to do something to keep their new found wealth.

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        Worse, the economy is highly geared towards separating boomers from their money. Many Millennials aren’t going to get the inheritance they expect. And that will have a far greater radicalization effect.

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      It’s the intolerance paradox. A tolerant society can’t allow this kind of hate to go on.

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        This is specifically not what the tolerance paradox is about.

        That basically revolves around actions. Say whatever you’d like so long as you’re not actively hurting anyone or inciting anyone to hurt anyone else.

        Essentially at what point is intolerance something you can no longer tolerate, it doesn’t at all say or imply intolerance itself cannot be tolerated.

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          When a Nazi tells you they’re a Nazi, and then you do nothing, you’re complicit when they actually start doing Nazi shit.

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            Not at all, you could justify so many atrocities but this flawed logic.

            Should I murder anyone who holds white supremacist ideology? Abortion? Support for native populations? Who gets to define the immorality we’re acting on here.

            Though I do find it funny you don’t see the irony in using the same excuse Hitler used for the night of the long knives.

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        So true. Which is why we need to stop the Israeli genocide against Palestinians.

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        It’s simple: be intolerant to intolerance. Speech or actions that promote hate or violence against groups of people should honestly not be tolerated like it is. We need to call that shit out for the oppression that it is.

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      I find silencing people who calls on killing all Jews to be completely undemocratic.

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      Hate speech is not free. It has a price.