r/The_Donald now on Lemmy - Lemmy Online
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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies. In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines. The instance-admin of [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
  • Grant_MEnglish
    218·
    2 years ago

    The trouble with having a federated server containing a lot of users/communities promoting bigotry is that it dirties the name of Lemmy. The dirtying dissuades people from joining. It ultimately helps ONLY the group causing the dirtying and harms the majority.

          • Cyborganism@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            232·
            2 years ago

            I get your point. He may be a CCP apologist, but it’s not the CCP itself.

            Also, his project IS open source so… let’s fork it? Maybe it’s the only way we can ensure that the software is not being directed by any political bs.

          • yarr@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
            26·
            2 years ago

            If you think selling unregulated ice cream is the worst example of capitalist misdeeds you have a very limited imagination.

          • Black616Angel@feddit.deEnglish
            132·
            2 years ago

            Oh yeah, the whole climate change can be more or less traced back to managers only thinking about the next profits but let’s say, it’s only unregulated ice cream…

            (not saying the genocide doesn’t happen, but capitalism probably Skills more people than China)

              • yarr@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
                17·
                2 years ago

                Capitalism is the natural default after all.

                Capitalism, as we understand it today, is a relatively recent development in human history. For the vast majority of human existence, societies have been structured around other forms of economic organization like tribalism, feudalism, or mercantilism. Capitalism is not the default but a system that evolved over time in response to specific historical, technological, and social conditions.

                There are multiple successful economies worldwide that blend elements of capitalism with other economic systems, such as the Nordic model of social democracy, which combines free market capitalism with a strong welfare state. If capitalism were the default, we would not see such variety in economic systems.

                  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    14·
                    2 years ago

                    Do you actually not know the difference between free trade and capitalism? Capitalism is when investors own the means of production in order to extract profit from a disparity between price and cost (including labor wages). There are plenty of free trade models which don’t utilize capitalism, they are not the same thing.

                    Grog (the worker) owned his own axe (means of production) and traded the wood he gathered for shiny shells (free trade). Capitalism would be if Bunga (capitalist) owned the axe and then traded the wood Grog gathered himself, giving Grog some shells while keeping the rest (profit).

                  • yarr@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
                    6·
                    2 years ago

                    People have bemoaned capitalism as long as it has existed. When do you think this “golden age” of capitalism was when everyone was universally content with the state of affairs?

              • Black616Angel@feddit.deEnglish
                112·
                2 years ago

                Nice pictures!
                Now do all the wars, the US has started in the last 70 years.
                And don’t forget their “war on drugs” as well as the opioid crisis, constant gun massacres, slaves in third world countries and so on.

                Again, I do not want to play down any massacre done by any regime but your “natural default” is just straight up bullshit.
                Capitalism only holds that long because people think they can be the ones spitting down.
                In socialism all shall be equal but people want to be better than others.

                  • Black616Angel@feddit.deEnglish
                    41·
                    2 years ago

                    Okay, I will not condemn communism, I will however condemn whatever China and Russia (and others) are doing which they call communism, while not granting most of their workers any rights let alone common ownership of the means of production or abandoning money, private property or social classes.

                    To your imperialism argument I quote Lenin:

                    Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism

                    And even if you differentiate between imperialism and capitalism… How is the US massacre problem imperialism? How is the “war on drugs”/the opioid crisis/whatever the US does with their healthcare-system? How do you explain the constant need for growth in spite of a worsening climate?

              • carbon_based@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                5·
                2 years ago

                (… no i will not quote and emphasize that last sentence …)
                My goodness, what are you doing on this server? Who has tormented your mind wich such garbage?

      • Grant_MEnglish
        414·
        2 years ago

        Your post here is confirmation that sh.itjust.works is a toxic instance.