r/The_Donald now on Lemmy - Lemmy Online
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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies. In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines. The instance-admin of [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
        • Contextual Idiot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          211·
          1 year ago

          I guess to some people, tolerance is conditional on whether you agree with what they said.

          I’m not going to tolerate neo-nazis over here. I’m going to call out any of their shitty views and takes. Because they aren’t going away. Racism didn’t die, white supremacists didn’t fade away. Folks like to think they came back with Trump, but guess what? The call was coming from inside the room. It was always there, it was just taking a nap and waiting.

          Cutting them off will just put them back into waiting mode, ready to pop up and spread their shit again. We, the society we, need to push back against their shit to keep regular folk from falling for their lies. It’s not going to be easy, and it’s certainly not a one person job. All of us need to do what we can, even if it’s just a downvote.

          Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to unblock TheDonald to see what’s worth downvoting.

          • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
            91·
            1 year ago

            Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to unblock TheDonald to see what’s worth downvoting.

            I peeked at it earlier. Honestly, really isn’t anything at all of value in there.

            I mean, seriously- it’s just a bunch of really crappy news posts… the kind that looks more like spam then news.

            • Contextual Idiot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              142·
              1 year ago

              Yeah, it was sad. One dude shouting to the void, basically. If that’s all it takes to get an instance defederated, then the Fediverse is doomed to be small oases in an ocean of fear and hatred.

              • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
                111·
                1 year ago

                Fediverse is doomed to be small oases in an ocean of fear and hatred.

                Tell me about it.

                I don’t think many people realize how little effort it would take me, to go and create a bot that just creates accounts on their instance, and then posts pro-trump things on other instances.

                Let that run for, oh. a day or two, and I imagine that would be the end of federation for everyone.

                • N0tTheBees@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  31·
                  1 year ago

                  I heard there is the option to enable captcha in the new 0.18 version, so there should be some protection soon.

                  edit: I had it the wrong way around and the removed captcha in 0.18 to reimplement it in a future version

              • God@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                102·
                1 year ago

                I specifically choose instances based on their instance block list. If they block a lot of instances, I don’t consider them. My ideal ones are the ones that are a bit free and yet are well connected, but sometimes well connected means “allied to the mass defederators” because people in general become super compliant in the face of isolation.

                Sh.itjust.works may start banning communities to regain federation to Beehaw, and then Beehaw will ask that sh.itjust.works defederate a “wrong” instance or two, and by the time we know it, we’ll all be banning the same instances, and we’ll be a cute little echo chamber of “tolerance”.

                By that same measure, I usually avoid any instance of community that claims to be a “safe place”. They’re the likeliest to always be attacking others because that’s how you stay safe, through unending violence.

          • sexy_peach@feddit.deEnglish
            82·
            1 year ago

            I guess to some people, tolerance is conditional on whether you agree with what they said.

            how is downvoting related to tolerance?

            • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
              82·
              1 year ago

              You literally downvoted him, NOT for the content inside of the comment he made- but, because he chose to voice his opinion.

              That is the definition of intolerance, towards any viewpoint that does not specifically agree with yours.

              His comment, that you disagreed with:

              I just posted my comment in the Lemmy.ml thread, so we’ll see how THAT goes…

            • Contextual Idiot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              13·
              1 year ago

              I owe you an apology, @[email protected] . I didn’t mean to direct that comment only to you, but I see how it came across that way.

              Upvotes and downvotes don’t have modifiers that let you say whether you agree or disagree, whether you think the comment is relevant, or whether you appreciate that someone took the time to respond but you disagree with their points. They’re too broad.

              So without further information, like a reply, no one can really know why an upvote or downvote was cast.

              So, would you care to discuss what I wrote in reply to your post?

      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        61·
        1 year ago

        Did you get told about the “paradox of tolerance”?

        People need to chill a bit. The defederate hammer is being thrown around a lot lately without allowing admins time to respond. One moron setting up a community named thedonald isn’t the same as that same Reddit community seeing up base here.

        Seems like it’s gone now either way? I can’t find it.