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    I’m continuously confused about why they think they are free, or at least uniquely free? What does the moon even have to do with that supposed freedom?

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      Propaganda

      What they said is a line from a song we are made to sing as children. They don’t really teach us about life in other countries, we have to do that ourselves if we happen to be curious.

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          Yep. From kindergarten to 6th grade we had to sing that along with a myriad of other similar songs. By the time I was around 13 I started to realize how weird it is and I began questioning everything I had ever been taught. Growing up, my parents made me go to a Catholic school every Wednesday evening so I had been taught lots of incorrect and distorted information. Eventually I began skipping class and I would walk around town and do whatever and that is the first time I actually felt free.

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          It’s normal for young children to have a music class, usually this is primarily a ‘fun’ class and includes a lot of chorus singing.

          This was one of the songs sung in the class when I was a kid.

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        Propaganda plus having the intellectual capacity of a middle schooler while being assumed to be a reasonable person

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      If Americans knew how good life can be then they wouldn’t settle for such a shitty country. So from birth they are lied to about having good lives

      It’s not even healthcare, imagine the poorest country you can and there are places like that there

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        Stop it or they’ll start chanting their country initialism again.

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      To conservative Americans the word “freedom” doesn’t mean the same thing that it means to you and I. That’s the simple short explanation for your confusion. It would require a much longer discussion to really unpack why that is and how it intersects with ideology.

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      It makes me sad because one of the aspects of my country of which I am actually extremely proud is the fact that we landed people on the fucking moon. It’s sad because this feat was accomplished by a bunch of really smart, educated people with a solid grounding in science (and TBF a few literal nazis here and there) not by a bunch of inbred dumbfucks who think driving around with a big flag sticking out of their enormous pickup truck is somehow making a contribution to America’s greatness - and whose whole existence is fundamentally built around rejecting science and education and being smart.

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        That’s very definitely not what they mean at all. American conservatives, the kind of people referenced here, are anti-government except for the military.

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          Anti-government except for one of the biggest aspects of the biggest government there is…

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      Propaganda is why they’re deluded to the levels they are.

      Americans are by and large poorly traveled and unaware of exactly how badly they have it in America. Something like 1/2 of Americans have a passport, whereas Canada which is right next door is 2/3-3/4.

      One of the weirdest things about that is they seem to be proud of it.

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        This is only true if you look at the country as a whole. Break it down by state or even region and you’ll see that entire parts of the country are more like Canada in terms of international travel, while others are unusually provincial for citizens of an industrialized democracy.

        If you live in a middle class neighborhood in a big west coast city, for example, chances are good that you and all of your neighbors have traveled overseas extensively. It’s also very much a class and educational division and of course that plays out in a variety of other ways as well.

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        I don’t currently have a valid passport; I haven’t felt a need for one.

        America itself is so big that I can spend my life visiting different parts of it and never run out.

        Having a passport and traveling intentionally just feels like an unwanted hassle.

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          International travel is an amazing education that you cannot receive domestically.

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              Yes. This is what I’m pointing out. Americans are intentionally ignorant about the world and don’t see a problem with this. They’d rather stay home, sit in the lazy river at the water park stuffing their faces and drinking bud light than going and seeing the great museums of Europe, the history of the middle east, the artwork and dance from Africa or the beauty of somewhere like Bali.

              6 flags sounds awesome though. Foot long hotdogs are where it’s at I hear.

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        It’s mostly because we’re poor and can’t afford to travel. Don’t act like everyone is like that, please.

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          And we can travel thousands of miles and still be in the USA. I don’t blame US Americans for not traveling outside of the USA, we have a wide range of vacation destinations that people travel from various parts of the world to visit. People could literally teavel only in the USA their entire lives because we have so many places of interest.

          However, we could use cultural diversity to fully understand what we’re not being exposed to.

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            You can have all the cultural diversity that you want, you just have to get the politicians to agree that immigration is actually a good thing.

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    I bet someone’s gonna be pissed when they find out

    https://i.imgur.com/BFljhn7.jpg

    edit: on their 3rd mission

    Two previous Chinese lunar missions had flags on the crafts’ coatings - so neither could be affixed to the moon.

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      The American dream is to become rich and then do the exploiting yourself.

      They may as well just give up with the American dream and rename it the rules of acquisition. At least then they’d be being honest with themselves.

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      “It’s called The American Dream because you’d have to be asleep to believe in it.”

      -George Carlin

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      It’s a delusion that workers can work hard and become rich, used by those in power to extract worker skill and dedication.

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    Myth: Welcome to America, land of freedom and opportunity!

    Reality: Welcome to America, here’s your bill. If you don’t like it you’re free to go die in a ditch. Otherwise, get your ass to work.

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    I’m ashamed to be an American

    Where they make me think I’m free

    And I’m appalled by all the lives it took

    To sell that lie to me

    So I’ll proudly stand up to tyranny

    And fight it till the day

    Cause there ain’t no doubt we’ve fucked this land

    Goddamn the USA!

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    Isn’t the flag on the Moon bleached to completly white by now?

    So technically only the French have a flag on the Moon.

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    Dude’s even factually wrong. The moon has flags from multiple jurisdictions, including the USSR, China, the EU, etc. Pretty much every piece of human-made hardware on the moon has a flag on it.

    Or… The moon actually has zero flags depending on your definition. Because the sun quickly bleaches them white as there is no atmosphere to shield against the UV rays.

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      The Apollo 11 flag may not be bleached on one side.

      That’s because they put it too close to the lander and it blew over when they blasted off. This is the actual thing NASA kept secret about the moon landings for many years.

      Anyway, since that flag’s been lying in the dirt for all these years, it may not have been bleached by the sun.

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        There’s something tragic and poetically american about traveling through space to plant your flag somewhere only to accidentally knock it straight over.

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      Because the sun quickly bleaches them white as there is no atmosphere to shield against the UV rays.

      “Burn this flag, asshole!”
      The Sun: “Hold my beer.”

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    As a fellow Jesus-ordained, Trump-blessed freedom-loving American, can someone explain to me what the fuck having a flag on the moon has to do with freedom?

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    The only people who are ‘free’ in America are those who are white, Christian, heterosexual, wealthy, and preferably male.

    Everyone else gets oppressed, exploited and thrown under the bus at every opportunity.

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    Stupidest song recorded during my lifetime. David Cross had a nice bit about sending that fucker to war after 9/11. Which reminds me that that other piece of shit country musician wrote a song about that tragedy that was mocked on South Park.

    Conservatives are so easy to manipulate through pandering. It almost makes me wish I had no ethics, cause then I’d be rich.

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      That’s the second part of the joke. The one guy doesn’t even get that there’s more than one flag on the moon.

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    Seems rather triumphalist for a UK community to upvote since the health service has been sold off (to the US) for profit. Maybe the other Europeans joined in?

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    Everyone here is talking about the flags on the moon… I’m more interested in the hospital bills in all honesty. That, and the wait time for a visit.