• phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If gun control won’t do anything then we need gun bans. No more controlling them, take them all away.

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      1 year ago

      If the US wasn’t so hung up on the Constitution guns would have already been banned. They give basically anyone extreme executive power, none should have that.

      In countries where gun control laws do exist even military personnel are not allowed weapons outside of assigned duties. Partially because anyone can go mad, like this, but mostly because administratively it’s easier to just say no one should have a gun then to try and work out who has a legitimate exception.

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        It’s not that America is hung up on guns per se. It’s that the corporations are allowed to dictate the conversation by pouring money into loudmouths and social media farms, and ultimately the laws themselves by -corrupting- lobbying lawmakers.

        Funnily enough, foreign power also found that they can play that same game and funnel money to create chaos. Just look at the other thread that points to russian money funding the new speaker’s 2018 campaign…

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        I’d really prefer we stay hung up on the Constitution. Lotta good stuff in there about not trampling your citizens and such…

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          The Constitution isn’t the ultimate authority in the universe it’s just what people 200 years ago thought would make a good country.

          It’s extremely amperable but it has basically nothing to do with her current world. It’s extremely amarable but also utterly ridiculous to apply its principles to the current political system.

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          “2A proponents” already don’t give a fuck about the “well-regulated militia” clause in the very amendment they’re supposedly so adamant about.

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            Some do, some don’t. Some just interpret the phrase differently. Some would say guns are already one of the most regulated products so they’re already “well-regulated.” Also the Supreme Court ruled in Heller that despite it saying “militia” the phrase really means individual people, meaning individual people have the fundamental right to possess firearms, etc. So, I think most of these people are not disregarding it, they’re interpreting it a different way. It’s the SCOTUS official interpretation, so it’s not like it’s a crackpot idea even if it’s ultimately wrong. I know I disagree with SCOTUS on a ton of stuff.

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        Mask off, I want to live. Mask off, I think people should be able to be in public without being randomly murdered by some one having a bad day. Mask off, I think that is a more important right than the right to keep and bear arms.

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            It’s the only tool that seems to result in random people dying by the dozens while they go about their everyday life every few months when one person has a bad day.