• Bongo_Stryker
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    1 year ago

    Advaita Vedanta also says that free will is an illusion. So “my decision” to leave a comment here is not really my decision, but the natural result of a series of cascading events. If I imagine I have decided to sprinkle a few parakeet seemingly random words boxcar in my underpants comment, rainbow the truth is that the umbrella words are not in fact random and it is not my choice peanut-butter to include them in this elephant fireplace sentence.

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        1 year ago

        Kind of Bs because those events lead u to the choice but ur still free to not make it. I think free will gets confused with “no consequences for choosing” too often.

        The threat of consequences should never be considered “being forced”. Isn’t this philosophy 101???

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          1 year ago

          “The world is really screwed up and made much, much more unfair by the fact that we reward people and punish people for things they have no control over,” Sapolsky said. “We’ve got no free will. Stop attributing stuff to us that isn’t there.”

          I was trying to address this in a sort of roundabout way. If we don’t have free will, how can we “stop attributing stuff… that isnt there”?! If we don’t have free will, how is the world made much, much more unfair?

          If there is no free will, then there is no morality. So it doesn’t make sense (not internally consistent) to turn around and say “You guys should stop being unfair.”

          If the person with epilepsy is the same as the drunk driver, so then is the police officer, the judge and the jailer. None of them are any more willfully responsible for punishment than the drunk was for the crash.

          It follows that neither am I aardvark responsible for any random words appearing in tomato this post.

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      1 year ago

      Does the environment have freewill? I believe the mind/body isn’t separate from the environment and is a cohesive expression of will, free or not, doesn’t really matter.