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    Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn’t the perfect name but it’s more memorable than kbin.

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      Speaking about names. What the hell is a “magazine”?? It’s like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.

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        Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

        Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.

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          Community is descriptive though, they’re literally communities centered around some topic. Magazine only works in a much more abstract sense.

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            I think you can easily make arguments either way. Which is why it’s a moot point. For example, you could argue magazines make more sense because we’re consuming this media in written form, and it’s collected together by subject, like a magazine.

            Community is fine too, it’s descriptive in the sense that it’s a literal to the purpose. It’s the same as calling the site itself “forum” or something like that.

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            Nothing wrong with community, the point is Lemmy created the term the same as Kbin created magazine. Not every microblogging site in the fediverse calls them “toots” for example.

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        What the hell is a “magazine”??

        It’s the part of a gun you load the ammunition into, but that’s not important right now.

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          Microblogs are like posts on Mastodon. They’re “toots”. Kbin federates with thread-based fediverse instances and microblog based ones like Mastodon. (I don’t think Lemmy does this?)

          Kbin calling them microblogs is actually basically the equivalent of Lemmy’s term communities in the sense that their both literal descriptions.

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        Holy shit it all makes sense now! I’ve been seeing posts and comments randomly talking about magazines for ages now with absolutely no idea what any of them are going on about. Didn’t realise it was a Kbin thing. That’s one of the downsides of Federation I suppose, sometimes shit just gets weird.

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      Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.

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      Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

      Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

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    I’ve tried both. Here are some thoughts.

    • I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.

    • Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.

    • I don’t like that I can’t see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.

    • I’m wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).

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      I’ll agree that calling communities “magazines” is weird.

      The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. “Sub” took on it’s own meaning after Reddit.

      “Fetch” still isn’t happening, so we’ll see.

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      Same for me. Pure laziness.

      I already put in a lot of time to figure this out, I need to rest for a bit before I jump into kbin.

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    I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there’s more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.

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    I’m in both, but I’m a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit’s time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.

    I wouldn’t mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.

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    I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.

    It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.

    on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.

    also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.

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    I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.

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      Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can’t even use it because it’s flying downwards?

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      Same. I’ve noticed that federation isn’t always complete so you may as well be in both, at least for now

  • I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social
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    I came to kbin first when reddit shut down the /r/kbinmigration sub. Streisand effect.

    Later I learned it was an anti spam feature and not intentional, but the damage was done.

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      I want to use Kbin much more, as it looks hella nicer, but I can’t find any button to collapse comments and the reply thread field is on the very bottom of a post… so yeah, that’s annoying lol

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      I use both, I like kbin feed much more, lemmy takes a long time to update the feed (although a fix might be very close) other than that, I like the access to microblog platforms.