Is there anything better than SimpleX for total anonimity?

Although I also use Molly, a modified version of Signal, even with people that have my number for Signal I still prefer SimpleX for everybody, but unfortunately Molly/Signal is easier for some people.

Especially for things like resetting phone or changing phones, with Molly they know where I am and there’s no need for an invite link with SimpleX, but I still grealy prefer it.

  • ISOmorph@feddit.de
    3·
    2 years ago

    Do you want anonymity or ease of use? You won’t beat anything that uses actual phone numbers in terms of mass adoption. You won’t find an app that allows for true privacy that uses actual phone numbers. These things are mutually exclusive.

    • LengselOP
      2·
      2 years ago

      If I understand you correctly, I agree with you.

      My point is I really like SimpleX for it’s arandom anonimity, and I prefer SimpleX, but if someone wants to use Molly/Signal, then I can happily talk to them on there for messaging and call.

      I won’t use anything else for messaging, those 2 are all I need.

    • LengselOP
      3·
      2 years ago

      Not on the same level as SimpleX. With Briar and Session you have you have the same ID for everybody.

      For SimpleX you can create a new random ID with each contact, so if you talk with 8 people, SimpleX will create 8 random ID’s and each contact will see you as someone different than how the other contacts see you.

  • sntx@lemm.ee
    2·
    2 years ago

    I’ve started using SimpleX with a few privacy minded friends, we migrated our Group from Signal to SimpleX. The experience has been great so far!

    What I don’t like about SimpleX is that it’s still missing proper Desktop/3rd Part Apps as far as I’m aware. Furthermore the whole project is still in it’s infancy.

    Though it’s already usable day to day.

    My plan moving forward with SimpleX is writing a nix-flake to build SimpleX Chat CLI on nix.

    • LengselOP
      1·
      2 years ago

      Yes, there’s no desktop provram for SimpleX. I don’t know if due to SimpleX constantly being improved, there is inadeguate resources to build a desktop client.

      I find the best desktop messeging programs for consistency are all on Windows unless it was originally designed as a federated platform.

      I’m considering using Signal on FreeBSD if I’m going to messege on computer, it’s in the ports system to build it. It seems OpenBSD haz the libraries for it but not the full desktop client.

      Linux is too chaotic for my liking for what works and what is not consistently stable.

  • Prunebutt@feddit.de
    1·
    2 years ago

    I really like delta chat as well. Anonymous mails are easy to come by and everyone has an email adress. Bonus: people actually start encrypting their messages.

    IMHO, it is a good balance between adoption and security. Still not perfect, though.

    • LengselOP
      1·
      2 years ago

      I’ve looked at Delta chat and have wondered if it’s worth it. I only use webmail on computer for all of my emails because I need the screen real estate, zero email on phone. Phone is only calling and messaging.

      Should I give Delta chat a try for doing long form emails including documents?

      • Prunebutt@feddit.de
        1·
        2 years ago

        Only if you like the “Messenger App” form factor. Delta chat is nothing but a mail client with a messenger UI. Fortunately, that includes automatic PGP encryption for users who do not know what that is (similar to what whatsapp/signal did for E2EE).

        You can still try it out. It literally has no downsides. And if you like to use it as a chat-client only, it supports that option, too.

        • LengselOP
          1·
          2 years ago

          I get what you’re saying. My personal contacts are all already on SimpleX and Signal. Email is for business things and contacting companies, that’s why I do it all on computer for reading through form letters, documents, blah blah blah, with a proper monitor from emails that are 5 paragraphs, 8 paragraphs long.

          • Prunebutt@feddit.de
            1·
            2 years ago

            Yeah, that’s not what delta chat is for.

            I feel that this would have been perfect 10 years ago. Before everyone gave up their phone number to Whatsapp/Facebook.

            • LengselOP
              1·
              2 years ago

              Yeah, delta chat would have been great 15 years ago when email was all people had for communication.

              I only use phone for messaging and calls. No videos, no multimedia, no websites, or very rarely, no email, all of that is done on one of my computers when I can have multiple programs going.

              I use multiple screens for my workflow and phone is another screen in there as well. Computers are for work and entertainment, communications is on phone.

              After I get Signal going on FreeBSD that will be one less thing to need phone for.