The state has one of the country’s highest maternal mortality rates. Now, three hospitals plan to stop delivering babies, putting some pregnant women at even higher risk.

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    It’s the republican evangelical/christian way. Defund anything that actually helps people and line the pockets of the lobbyists. It says to do this right in the Bible of course

    “Nobody wants women and children to do poorly, but you also can’t lose money year over year on a service line,” said Dr. John Waits, CEO of the nonprofit Cahaba Medical Care, which runs medical clinics that take patients regardless of their ability to pay

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      Will get ever change how they vote? Will they ever realize that voting for the same idiots is how they got here? How many of them have to personally lose a baby or a wife before even reconsidering?

      The whole thing makes me sick.

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      I’ve also often thought to myself, “You know who has it too good? Poor black mothers and children in the deep south, especially Alabama. Someone should fix that”.

      Since we both READ THE ARTICLE, I know you also agree with me…right?

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    Fuck everyone in this thread cheering this on. This is NOT the schadenfreude you think it is.

    Read the article you dipshits. This is not impacting the wealthy, or white areas, it’s impacting the poor black ones.

    All you lazy armchair activists are cheering on the actions that are guaranteed to raise the black infant mortality rate in Alabama even higher than it already is.

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      Almost everyone in this thread is talking about how this is a bad thing and why it happened.

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        When I came to the thread I just spammed my point across all the top comments, which were all cheering it on.

        So you’re just seeing my comments, and maybe others who came in after and also read the article.

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          so you spammed the same shit to everyone with bad takes and you thought it was so important to post a standalone too? jesus dude, relax

          there’s only 26 comments (8 parents) a day later ffs, it’s not like there was an outpouring of support the way your comment implies

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            Yes, I took approx. 2 minutes of my toilet time to call out the bad takes.

            Do you want to help me manage my shits more effectively?

            If I send you my pooping schedule, can you make sure to recommend the posts I should respond to?

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    They’ll still be delivering babies, just doing it in the ER without specialists. You think maternal mortality is high now, they’re going for a New High Score!

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      Which is frankly terrifying. ER docs are only required to do 10 deliveries during residency, which are often as glorified observers. I did nearly 100 deliveries in my rural unopposed FM residency and that was no where near enough to feel comfortable making it a part of my practice.

      So, yes, they are going to set records.

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      Rather be dead than be born in Alabama to Alabaman parents. This is a mercy.

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          Lived near the AL border for years. That’s what’s fucking wrong with me. FL is absolute garbage but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Habsburg Hell that is AL.

          I meant what I said. My opinion will change when Alabama stops fucking their cousins and starts joining us in the 21st century.

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            Did you read the article? This won’t affect the rich, white, affluent people in Alabama. It’s going to affect predominantly poor, black communities in Shelby and Monroe counties. These communities already lacked sufficient access to prenatal and postnatal care, and now it’s getting much worse. Nearly 40% of Alabaman voters (roughly 1,000,000 people) vote democrat, skewing heavily towards poor and minority communities which these policies disproportionately (and some might argue intentionally) harm.

            But sure, take the easy cheap shot and vilify an entire state of people as if it’s one giant big bad guy, then joke that it’s better to be dead than from there. You say you spent years living near the border, so I’m tempted to follow your lead and make a cheap joke about the education you must have received to think it’s better to be dead than from a specific area of the USA. But I was born and raised on that border between AL and FL, and I’m capable of wrapping my head around the wild, liberal idea that states are not monolithic entities that take the shape of big bad guys to make easy jokes for you. Alabama, like all states, is full of all kinds of different people trying to live their lives, and they deserve our compassion and our energy to try to make things better, not jokes that they’re better off dead because they were born there.

            I’m ashamed that you and I spent time in the same area of the country. I’m hoping you don’t consider yourself liberal or a democrat, because your simple way of thinking is anything but those things.

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      Yeah, that’ll show the…reads articlepoor black residents of Alabama.

      Hey…maybe you should the read the article and then reevaluate your comment.

      Well, unless you’re just a really big fan of raising the infant mortality rate of that particular demographic.

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      Agreed 💯. This is democracy in action. In a way, I’m happy that Alabama is listening to the desires of its citizens. If they don’t want maternity wards then that’s fine with me.

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    It seems that this is the ‘find out’ part of 'F**CK around and find out for the GOP.

    Not that they care of course, the poor are not people, and not GOP*

    *Sarcasm, but also, GOP members tend to considers themselves ‘wealthy’, reality be dammed.

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      Thank you for pointing that out. Delusional aspirational wealth is a vital part of conservative “logic”.

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    One issue with mother baby units is they are loss leaders. This is why not every hospital has them. They only drain money from a hospital. If the hospital has other money making specialists bringing in the cash, then the mother baby unit can stay.

    The other piece is a hospital can only have units for the medical specialists they can attract. If, say, they can’t find cardiologists then there will be no cath lab, and patients needing that care will have to be transferred elsewhere. If, say, Alabama is having a hard time attracting OBGYNs due to archaic laws regarding women’s medical care, then the unit would have to close even if the hospital has no financial reason to do so.

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    The article strongly suggests that the maternity unit closings are due to the financials, not Alabama 's recent laws against abortion. I wish they had explored these new laws as a cause (anti abortion laws was the primary cause for closings in Idaho).

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      And the law passed that family members could sue doctors for administering mis…priizone? Sp.

      Even in non pregnancy cases if the patient could possibly pregnant.

      From an interview with an Idaho doctor who was trying to decide if they would stay or go.