None of the local witnesses the court heard from this week had any contact with Lich or Barber, who are both accused of mischief and counselling others to commit mischief, among other charges.

If you organize a murder and encourage the person who commits the murder but don’t have any contact with the murder victim are you free and clear?

Barber and Lich are garbage humans who organized and encouraged the violation of the people of Ottawa.

  • @Showroom7561
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    I never understood the irony of these terrorists hating Canada and loving Canada at the same time. They don’t share Canadian values, and their extremist views only aim to cause harm.

    • @[email protected]
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      It makes sense when viewed as the actions of an immature child.

      “It’s mine and if I can’t have it then no one can.”

      It’s not based on logic, it’s entirely based on their own perception of greed and the requirements for fulfillment.

      • @kent_eh
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        With an added dose of zero sum game.

        “The only way for me to win is to make everyone else lose”

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      They hate the Canada that is. They’re in love with the idea of a Canada that may have been.

      MAGA is a good example of this. Many of the things that they think will make America “great” are actually pretty awful and/or came at somebody else’s expense

    • MapleEngineerOP
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      Canada is the best country in the world to live in and they want to destroy everything that makes it the best country in the world to live in.

      You don’t love Canada if that’s what you aim to do.

      • pbjamm
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        They are the same as the MAGAts in the USA. They claim to love America and then proceed to tear it down because what they really love is a fantasy version of it. It is a fundamentally selfish version. They want all the rights and privileges with none of the responsibilities. No one should be able to infringe upon their freedom of expression, but the gays, minorities, immigrants etc should shut the hell up.

        They do not love America, they do not love Canada. They love having authority and power over others.

      • @[email protected]
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        Ok can we not make up shit though? Canada is shit, and saying it’s the best country in the world means you don’t want to fix or improve it.

        Since I was a kid I’ve been hearing about how Canada is the best. As I’ve grown I have seen the native schools, the local governments that don’t care, rising cost of living, rising food costs, pathetic wages, and a Canadian government that doesn’t seem to notice or care about any of our day to day issues.

        Canada is most definitely not the best country in the world, far from it. Let’s fix it, not sit here pretending it’s a great place, cause it isn’t, not anymore.

        • @[email protected]
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          Actually, saying “Canada is the best country in the world” doesn’t mean that Canada is any good at all—it just means that the world is full of horrible countries. Just like it’s possible for the student who scores highest on a test to still get a failing grade, if everyone else failed too.

            • @[email protected]
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              I moved from Canada to the USA, and what I have seen is that Canada is less unequal than the US. If you are working class in Canada there is at least some social safety net. In the US the rich are richer and the poor are poorer. Canada is moving that way but still has more protections for those on the bottom.

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                The problem I find is that the safety net is there only if you’re rock bottom poor. If you’re lower income but barely scraping by, there’s no help for you. They are helping homeowners pay their property taxes, helping corporations with corporate welfare, and helping the poorest afford food, but if you’re just above the poverty line, you’re on your own.

                • MapleEngineerOP
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                  What country do you think you could live in where the government would give you money?

              • MapleEngineerOP
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                But the US has guns, hate speech, and discrimination disguised as religious freedom.

            • MapleEngineerOP
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              I’m not wealthy. I’ve been to lots of countries. There is no place that I would rather live than Canada. Maybe your problem is you?

              • @[email protected]
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                Oh I’m the problem? I’m the one who is setting the pathetic wages, rising costs of living and rising food costs? I’m the reason people are living paycheck to paycheck in the “greatest country”? Drop this nationalism bullshit, stop jerking off to the country’s propaganda.

                • MapleEngineerOP
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                  What country do you think isn’t having those problems right now?

                • MapleEngineerOP
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                  I think that the issue is all ego, like the Freudian ego. The people who are complaining can’t see past their own belly buttons. “I’m having a shitty time and I’m miserable therefore it’s a shitty country.” Nah, dog. There are a fuck of a lot of us out here who thinks its a great country and love it.

                  I’m one of those people.

    • @Powerpoint
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      They don’t love Canada. They love the USA or whatever other foreign interests manipulated them into occupying Ottawa.

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  • @cyborganism
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    If you organize a murder and encourage the person who commits the murder but don’t have any contact with the murder victim are you free and clear?

    Wasn’t that what Charles Manson did?

    • MapleEngineerOP
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      He was totally innocent, right?

    • MapleEngineerOP
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      And the thousands of hourly workers who were out of work for three weeks.

      • @Grimpen
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        One of the reasons I refuse to refer to the Qonvoyers as “truckers”. Every union that is active in the trucking industry and all trucking trade associations released statements disavowing the Qonvoyers. Actual working truckers were often caught up in border blockades by weekend “trucker” cosplayers with Dodge Ram 2500 dualies.

        • MapleEngineerOP
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          Same. I have a friend who is a long haul trucker. He was vaccinated, like the vast majority of professional truckers, and running loads back and forth to the US throughout the pandemic. He was always stressed about what was going to happen at the border but he worked the whole time. He though the protesters were idiots.