At least 198 Palestinians killed in Israeli air raids; Hamas attack kills 70 Israelis, ‘big number’ also captured.

    • Landrin201@lemmy.ml
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      No this is what happens when terrorists overwhelm a border crossing and stsrt indiscriminately murdering civilians, then carry their mutilated bodies around as literal flags as they celebrate the murder in the street

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        I assume you’ve been just as outraged and outspoken about atrocities carried out by the IDF?

        Is killing civilians fine as long as they don’t do it too “barbarically” for you?

        Should Palestinians just lay back and continue to let the settlers take what little of their homeland they have left? They’re being genocided. They’re fighting back in whatever way they’re capable

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          This has literally nothing to do with the settlers, have you ever even looked at a map of Israel and Palestine? There are no Israeli settlements in Gaza.

          Indiscriminately murdering civilians is not “fighting back.” Can you maybe stop being antisemitic for long enough to realize what you’re arguing right now? You’re claiming that murdering hundreds of civilians on camera in the streets for no reason at all is somehow justified.

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            looked up a map of Israel and Palestine

            I’ve seen this one:

            for no reason at all

            Ah, so you’re just a troll then

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      Yeah this happens daily in Palestine. Suddenly people care what happens over there? Gimme a break

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        There is literally not a SINGLE incident that I have ever heard of of Israelis dragging a family out of their home, slitting their throats ON CAMERA in the street including the children, then parading the bodies around while a literal crowd of hundreds of people cheer the murders.

        That simply hasn’t happened. Comparing soldiers shooting people, justified or not, to this is not just disingenuous but deliberately, flagrantly stupid.

        OR it’s antisemitic, and I’m leaning toward antisemitism here TBH.

        This is WELL beyond anything that Israel has done in the last few decades. Civilians killed during military actions in Gaza are not even remotely similar to this. This was a full on pogrom.

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          It seems your issue isn’t that civilians are dead, but that you are actually paying attention and seeing it now that it’s happening to the colonizers. When it happens in Gaza you don’t pay attention to the images, you don’t empathize with the families destroyed.

          But now there’s a relatively (to all that the IDF has done) small attack from Palestine and suddenly it’s front page news everywhere.

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          “This is WELL beyond anything that Israel has done in the last few decades. Civilians killed during military actions in Gaza are not even remotely similar to this” why? they’re still dead.

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            Exactly. They’re dead. In the end it doesn’t even matter how they died, they’re just dead. Is one way worse? Yes, but the result is still horrific. They. Are. Dead. Noone can take it back. Does it make worse that crowd applauds the killing? Yes. But same goes for the Israeli crowd (like the one in Kneset) applauding killing terrorist together with their families and children…

            The older I am the more disgusted of all the war pigs and warmongers I am. As a teen I scoffled at hippies and their beliefs, today I’d shake their hands. Fuck war, fuck killing, fuck war pigs.