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    This does suck though. To start, a counter-offer-based model begs discrimination. You should be getting yearly raises commensurate with (at absolute bare minimum, not even necessarily accounting for inflation) the increase in productivity from year to year.

    This is to say nothing of work environments. Unions could reduce or end crunch. Not just as hard blockers, but mandating the kind of project management that doesn’t require crunch.

    There’s also a history of wage suppression.

    https://www.inc.com/jeremy-quittner/silicon-valley-wage-collusion-class-action.html

    They’ll only get better at it, especially as the market continues to turn and companies continue to consolidate.

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      This does suck though. To start, a counter-offer-based model begs discrimination. You should be getting yearly raises commensurate with (at absolute bare minimum, not even necessarily accounting for inflation) the increase in productivity from year to year.

      I see that a lot with just the starting percentages of yearly raises. Most companies never keep up with market value, and by the time you’ve spent ten years there, you’re making much lower than the industry standard.

      The worst is employers who have some 1-5 scale for yearly performance and they gatekeep bosses who try to give out too many 5s. It’s not a competition among your peers. If the whole team is doing good and working hard, then reward all of them.

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        It’s not that you don’t have individual bargaining power. It’s just that if you were unionised, you’d have much more.

        The extent to which you are arguing against overwhelming evidence cannot be understated. You are arguing against something less controversial than evolution.

        We know that unions promote economic equality and build worker power, helping workers to win increases in pay, better benefits, and safer working conditions.

        But that’s not all unions do. Unions also have powerful effects on workers’ lives outside of work.

        High unionization levels are associated with positive outcomes across multiple indicators of economic, personal, and democratic well-being

        Unions raise wages of unionized workers by roughly 20% and raise compensation, including both wages and benefits, by about 28%.

        Unionized workers are more likely to receive paid leave, have health insurance and pension plans.

        Unionized workers receive more generous health benefits than nonunionized workers.

        Unionized workers receive 26% more vacation time and 14% more total paid leave

        How unions help all workers

        Workers get significant economic benefits from labor unions

        Unionized workers earn 10.2% more than their non-union peers

        Supporting workers’ right to organize is a key way to help boost wages and support quality jobs.

        Unions provide major economic benefits for workers and families

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            How is it hand wavy?!

            Imagine you are an employer with 100 employees, presented with the following situations.

            1. One employee demands a pay raise of 50%, or he’ll leave.
            2. 80 employees, including the employee above, demand a pay raise of 50% or they’ll all leave.

            In which of these two situations are you more likely to be willing to grant that 50% raise?

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                It was an analogy. The point is that a union gives you stronger negotiation power than you have alone. By not being in a union, you’re getting worse outcomes than you would have in a union. All of the statistics we have demonstrate that unionising results in a big increase in wages and benefits. You’re basically saying “no” because you think you know better than the science. This is just like anti-vax sentiment.

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                    The extent to which you are arguing against overwhelming evidence cannot be understated. You are arguing against something less controversial than evolution.

                    We know that unions promote economic equality and build worker power, helping workers to win increases in pay, better benefits, and safer working conditions.

                    But that’s not all unions do. Unions also have powerful effects on workers’ lives outside of work.

                    High unionization levels are associated with positive outcomes across multiple indicators of economic, personal, and democratic well-being

                    Unions raise wages of unionized workers by roughly 20% and raise compensation, including both wages and benefits, by about 28%.

                    Unionized workers are more likely to receive paid leave, have health insurance and pension plans.

                    Unionized workers receive more generous health benefits than nonunionized workers.

                    Unionized workers receive 26% more vacation time and 14% more total paid leave

                    How unions help all workers

                    Workers get significant economic benefits from labor unions

                    Unionized workers earn 10.2% more than their non-union peers

                    Supporting workers’ right to organize is a key way to help boost wages and support quality jobs.

                    Unions provide major economic benefits for workers and families