Seems like the feeds are more active and I’m not hitting things with 3 upvotes 20 minutes into my scroll. Did Connect change something, did Lemmy or are we just seeing some population increase from Boost?

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    Relay for Reddit just started requiring a paid subscription, so a lot of people are jumping ship.

    I think it was the last free 3rd party app left.

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      The last 3rd party app that is still holding its ground is infinity. It’s a great app but a lot of users are telling the developer to just stop supporting Reddit.

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        Boost for Reddit quietly still works for moderators but the app is probably now unmaintained with all development effort (one guy) going towards the Lemmy version

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          Yeah. Boost still works fine for me though some bugs are there. Downloading videos isn’t working properly and uploading images to posts is broken.

          But then again, any app is better than the official one.

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            The official app is so terrible. I’ll probably still check reddit occasionally using redreader once boost for reddit finally dies but it’ll be a tiny fraction of my previous use. You’d have to pay me to use the official app.

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        Infinity has been subscription only for a month now. Unless you take the code and put in your own api key if you can still get it, you’re not using it for free

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      My dear Relay 😢. Relay for Reddit is dead, long live Relay for Reddit.

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      RedReader is a thing. But the UX is kinda bad, and it’s probably only a matter of time before reddit kills that as well or it goes paid

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          That’s like google keeping mozilla firefox to not be technically a browser monopoly.

          Keeping one ugly app for accessibility just to say that they also care for the community of disabled /accessibility challenged people.

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      Same here with “Now for Reddit” i want to ween off Reddit from desktop as well but a lot of niche gaming communities are dead here on lemmy

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      That’s why I’m here. I mean, I was already using Lemmy since the whole api thing started earlier this year, but since my reddit app was still working I wasn’t spending much time here.

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    There was a recent boost…. From Boost. Maybe those that came over are more posters rather than lurkers like we’re used to getting. I can’t say I’ve seen some major change though so I have no clue as to what you’re talking about.

    There’s no real algorithm as we know it. I take that word as spying on you and taking your likes into mind to feed you more things. Doesn’t work like that at all on here.

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      A lot of us made accounts, or at least started regularly using the platform, when Boost was released. Previously there wasn’t a client for my phone that I liked much and I reddit/lemmy almost exclusively on mobile these days.

      I think you’ll see even more activity when reddit actually slams the door on 3rd party clients. Most still work for now provided your account meets some annoying minor criteria.

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          Yup! Weirdly though I’m not and everything works fine, I’m not sure what I did to trigger that flag.

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            Odd, I haven’t bothered trying. I did try patching sync once It didn’t work and I didn’t try further.

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              I haven’t had to patch Boost at all, it just keeps chugging along. I’m sure it’ll implode sooner or later when reddit actually bans all of the currently used API keys.

              The only things I can think of that might have flagged my account as a moderator are having one public multireddit and having made one u/ self post when people kept asking me the same question about parts for a laptop screen mod a few years ago.

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      I’m one of those boost people. I’d believe if you subscribed to have the app get installed in an uncertain future where it was ready for Lemmy you probably where pretty interested on it and not a casual browser

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      I think of those as predatory algorithms. Tailored for engagement/screen-time based on everything they know specifically about you

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        I do to, but don’t you think when most people say “algorithm” these days that’s what they’re referring to?

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          I think they do. I’m not* a prescriptivist but things are going to get confusing. We’re going to need terms for when we want to be specific.

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      Funny I find myself using Jerboa and Sync as I’m too lazy to change instances and views within one app. It’s all about the instance and the default mode I’m finding

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    both, but isn’t algorithm(we don’t have that here) but problems with federations is being resolved and the code is being optimized , causing less problems on the servers

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      There’s a ‘New’ algorithm, an ‘Old’ algorithm, a ‘Hot’ algorithm, an ‘Active’ algorithm, a ‘Most Comments’ algorithm, a ‘New Comments’ algorithm, a…

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        I’m looking forward to the new Scaled algorithm that comes with 0.19

        Scaled: Like hot, but gives a boost to less active communities

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          That’s going to be a game changer. There are so many smaller communities I never see in my feed that will stay small forever because their posts just stay buried in my feed and no one sees them.

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          They are implementations of algorithms. They are what people mean when they say “algorithm” when talking about social media. The only difference I can think of is that it’s not tailored specifically for you, but that’s what “frontpage” instead of “all” does.

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            incorrect.

            It only becomes an algorithm when it’s using some “data” to help automatically determine a sort procedure, or decide what you see or don’t see. Until then, it’s just a filter.

            For example; sorting by date…not an algorithm. tracking your views to automatically determine what you would likely want to see at the top of your list…algorithm.

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              Algorithm:

              a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, especially by a computer.

              Algorithm is a very generic word. Trying to gatekeep with those criteria makes no sense as everyone would have a different definition for algorithm.

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      Algorithm doesn’t mean what you think it does.

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    There’s no algorithm to speak of in Lemmy. It’s just all sorted by date and shown to you (which, technically speaking, is also an algorithm). In the next version (0.19) there will be, though.

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          I prefer that to something like Facebook or Twitter which tries to guess what you personally want to see.

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            Oh most definitely, fuck all that black-box algorithm nonsense. “we know what you want, and you will like it!”

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              It always seemed very self-reinforcing and circular to me, like “we showed you a dog and a cat, you clicked on a dog, so now we show you 8 dogs and 2 cats, and you mainly click on dogs! All dogs from here!”

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                It’s straight up dangerous. It leads people into echo chambers and they feel like they found that content with their own free will. Antivax people during covid and extreme “conservatives” are prime examples

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        It’s also not what lay-people mean when they say “algorithm” in context of social media, which you can easily infer from the OP’s question. That’s why I replied as such and specified that even sorting by date is indeed an algorithm.

        I’m replying to the question being asked, you’re replying with “akchually”.

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          A post sorting algorithm doesn’t have to be personalized. When OP asks “has the algorithm changed” it could certainly mean Hot or Active sorting.

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          I don’t think it’s a good idea to try to redefine what “algorithm” means in the context of social media. Hot and top are sorting algorithms, so are the personalized feeds other websites try to present to you. Saying “hot” is not an algorithm because that’s not what people “mean” is just going to cause confusion.

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            Well, correcting someone on a technicality is a common hobby among IT people, sadly. Everyone’s happy, I guess - I provided the answer OP was (I think) looking for, they got to boost their ego by correcting someone and I don’t particularly care about those idiots.

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      There’s also sort by Top (with various time filters), Hot, Active, and Most/New Comments, all of which are very much algorithms. What it doesn’t have is sorting based on user activity, which also isn’t what’s coming in 0.19. What’s being added is basically the same as ‘Hot’, but takes into consideration the activity on the sub, so as to let smaller subs in a user’s feed not be drowned out by more active subs.

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      So many people claiming no algorithms. There are multiple sorting algorithms in place here.

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      I’m in the connect community using connect and it defaults to Hot. Hot in the past has led to duplicate and very little activity posts showing up without too much scrolling.