If Reddit were to revert it’s changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?

    • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
      24·
      2 years ago

      I dont see most less technical users moving at all without some more UI maturity. The whole federated services thing is just a bit too abstract a concept for most. And right now its difficult to find/join communities outside your instance.

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        10·
        2 years ago

        The confusion seems unwarranted to me, though. It’s literally the same as email. Every time I discuss fediverse with people, all of their confusion stems from presumed complexity that doesn’t actually exist. The server they pick matters just as much as it does for their email. So the process is: create an account somewhere, and start interacting with communities. That’s it.

        • MyNameIsFred@beehaw.org
          6·
          2 years ago

          Right. Agree. But searching for communities, especially those outside your instance can be wonky. Finding communities and grouping like communities across instances is difficult as it currently sits. And it takes a bit of understanding how to search to find things.

          • dom
            3·
            2 years ago

            And the app for android doesn’t seem to let you search for and add new communities. It needs to be done from web browser from what I can tell

              • dom
                1·
                2 years ago

                Yeah it works for me now. Wasn’t searching for any new communities when I had tried it.

                Thanks

      • Communist@beehaw.org
        101·
        2 years ago

        Honestly, there’s a pull request right now on lemmy-ui for instance agnostic linking, that combined with automatically staying on your instance will completely resolve the only issue I see for normal people.

        That and a little jank here and there but that’s bound to get buffed out.

      • Hemingways_Shotgun
        5·
        2 years ago

        I don’t think it’s too abstract for people. I think we’re all just really bad at explaining it to non-techies.

        When you move to a city, choosing the neighborhood you want to buy your house in doesn’t stop you from being able to drive around looking at others.

        It ain’t rocket science.

      • mustyOrange@beehaw.org
        1·
        2 years ago

        See my post history if the ui is bothering you. With Sylus browser add on, some very small ui tweaks make the site much easier on the eyes

    • grant 🍞@toast.oooEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      after I found out about the fediverse I’ve wondered why not more people use it and why it wasn’t already popular

        • panopticchaos@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          I think that’s true for mastodon, but I suspect it’s going to be way less true for Reddit

          Twitter’s value proposition is roughly “one big giant conversation with everyone” and the federation stuff adds some complexity to that.

          Reddit already acted like a federation. There are ui and discoverability issues but they seem very solvable.

      • phire8@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Because most people just don’t understand it. It’s has a high barrier of entry (relatively speaking) and there aren’t really any good mobile apps. While I love the idea of the fed Ivette I just can’t imagine trying to explain it to everyone that’s isn’t tech savvy.

  • fossilesque@mander.xyz
    27·
    2 years ago

    Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn’t the first break. Big social is having problems, it’s the natural course of things.

  • ForynGilnith@lemmy.world
    22·
    2 years ago

    For me, they’d have to

    1. Replace /u/spez
    2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
    3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

    I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

  • kalipike@lemmy.one
    17·
    2 years ago

    The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

    Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

    Of course, there will be people who just don’t care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don’t care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don’t moderate any subreddits, and don’t follow the Internet news.

    I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

  • Anon2971@beehaw.org
    14·
    2 years ago

    I wouldn’t care. The irreversable damage is done.

    Reddit’s handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO’s AMA pretty much ignored all criticism of the API changes (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo’s developer threatening them… They’ve shown their real colours.

    I don’t want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else. I used Reddit for over a decade and they’ve eradicated my trust in a few days.

    Reddit as a company have clearly demonstrated their philosophy as a social media platform is make money. Even if they reverse the decision, at this point it’d clearly be a PR move to save their sinking reputation rather than coming from a place of genuine constructive dialogue.

    Its a shame, but at the same time I’m excited to see where things go from here. Reddit’s always had a bit of a quality control problem due to its sheer volume of content. Maybe this mass user exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

    I’m actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that’d be better, actually

  • Wolpertinger@sh.itjust.works
    8·
    2 years ago

    The last time reddit pulled some shit, I found tildes and expanded the sites I visited regularly/ semi-regularly (and reducing how much time I spent on reddit). Reddit reverting the latest changes will only minimize the damage on my end, as I’ll be spending time here that I could otherwise be spending over there.

    This stunt reduced the already diminished trust I have for reddit. Having migrated to reddit due to the digg v4 fiasco, over the years, reddit’s decisions have been like digg v4 in slow motion. Each fuckup just causes me to further reduce the amount of time I spend using the site. One of these days, they’ll cross too many of my red lines, and reddit will become completely useless to me.

  • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
    8·
    2 years ago

    I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

  • goddamnpipes@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 years ago

    I don’t intend to go back nearly as much as before, even if the changes are reverted (unlikely, imo). A lot of the aspects of Reddit that I didn’t like - but tolerated - are generally not found here, at least so far. While Lemmy still leaves things to be desired, it just feels better to engage with.

    However, I may still add " reddit" to the end of a search query to avoid all the bloat articles that crop up in a search. There’s still a wealth of useful information on Reddit from all those years for even the most niche questions / topics.

  • gabuwu@beehaw.org
    7·
    2 years ago

    Lemmy is too good to leave. I don’t think I’m alone either. I was wanting an alternative for a while.

  • JayWalker@lemmy.ml
    7·
    2 years ago

    Lemmy reminds me of early Reddit and I like that. The mask is all the way off now. Reddit was pretty fun 10+ years ago but that time has come and gone.

  • Kettellkorn@lemmy.ml
    7·
    2 years ago

    I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”

    • koraro@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yup other than the occasional tidbit that will eventually get here I just want something to doomscroll and kill time.